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Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login



Love the package icon, David.  :)

To jump into the fray, I'm not sure what the advantage is of forcing the user to wait during the upgrade rather than processing the upgrade after they've logged in.  Alex's original suggestion of having the user choose to login and THEN update seems to make more sense.  But, please do share your reasoning.

As an example of inappropriately forcing the user to wait for an update, I recently subscribed to the Gnome Colors PPA.  For those who have done the same, you'll notice that they update frequently (nearly every day).  That's a fairly large and lengthy update process to be waiting for.

The only situation in which I think the user should be forced to wait is perhaps when there is an update that requires a reboot.  Are we able to identify these updates beforehand?  If so, then in this case the message treatment on GDM could change as well, saying something along the lines of "12 updates available.  Click to install and reboot".

Perhaps the best choice though is to never force the user to install.  Even in the case where a reboot is required, leaving a reboot notification in the notification tray sounds like the right thing to do.


On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM, David Siegel <david.siegel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Kind of kitchy, but puts a more positive spin on the updates. Your mockup makes it look like you must update immediately or risk certain death.

David

ajmctaggart wrote:
Ok, so clearly there are pros/cons to every update situation.  Perhaps what I would like to see, as the user, is the option to have the ability to be notified of an update when I want it, at startup or shutdown?  Looks like a simple edition to the "Setting," menu of current Update Manager, as there are already the option for Download, Notify only, etc.

Perhaps this is what the gdm login screen would look like?  Obviously the usability experts may have some ideas on placement, wording, etc...

I just wanted to get a visual out there.  Obviously the discussion is still on the table, and I am not too sure if it should really be ignored as a viable option on user interaction with updates.

Thanks,
Anthony

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Vadim Peretokin <vperetokin@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:vperetokin@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

       When you turn on your computer, you are engaging with it,
       signaling that you have time and attention to give to the machine.


   Why do you think so? A computer can be turned on perform a task with
   its help, not to maintenance on itself. Sometimes one wants to
   google a map or something quickly before leaving would be an example.

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