Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

[Scott Kitterman <ubuntu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Frederik Nnaji" <frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 19:58, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, September 01, 2010 07:17:55 pm Frederik Nnaji wrote:
>> > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 19:16, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > > If you're using apt-get, then you aren't in the target audience Ayatana
>> > > is designing for.
>> >
>> > I think the CLI is definitely part of an ordinary Ubuntu experience for
>> > about 50% of Ubuntu users.. imagine getting workarounds from forums and
>> > wiki sites into place without guiding the novice through the CLI for a
>> few
>> > commands..
>> >
>> > Apart from that, getting the CLI dialogs right is an essential step in
>> the
>> > evolution of interface metaphors. The GUI is born in the CLI, if you ask
>> > me..
>>
>> Right is a function of the audience.  I think that CLI package management
>> users are more likely to be annoyed by excessively nanyish warnings from
>> their
>> package manager than helped by them.
>>
>
>I agree, "right" depends on who's lookin.
>
>on another note..
>i'm feeling like there's still too much developer vs consumer here.. Traits
>of elitarism.
>The new concept is prosumer aka community-driven, everyone contributes,
>using is participating already. There is also little sense in classifying
>groups of users by the applications they use in this particular context:
>community is a classless system.

That's only true if you don't care about losing the people that got Ubuntu to the edge of the chasm. I'm reasonably certain that's not the case.

Scott K