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[Egmont Koblinger <egmont@xxxxxxxxx>]

@Sebastien:

I tried to refrain from commenting on this aspect, but it indeed made me
think a lot. On one hand, I totally agree with you (myself also being a
developer/contributor to open source). On the other hand, I share the
frustration of many users, and I'm also quite disappointed on how such a
complex and crucial bug could be slipped into a release and I share
their opinion that the progress is way slower than it should be.

Is there a way you could please point me to documentation/guidelines how
such bugs could slip into the distro, how such bugreports and
prioritized/handled, what kind of QA process lets a distro ship with
such a bug, whether the QA process will be revised to make sure such
critical bug can't go into the distro in the future? I'd like to be sure
that it's safe for me to stay with Ubuntu, but if there'll be one more
release with such a critical bug, I'll just have to look for a different
distribution. I'm not trying to offend anyone or criticize anything, but
I'd like to know if what Ubuntu is able to offer to me is the best match
for what I'm looking for, and right now I'm in serious doubt. In short:
are there any *conclusions* drawn from this bug that'll help future
Ubuntu releases become better?

I can't help to mention that the application I use the most frequently
is gnome-terminal, where Ubuntu ships a quite old version, for exactly
one reason: updating to a newer one requires shell work (touching
/etc/profile or similar) to keep the convenience feature that new tabs
open in the working directory of the current tab. Something that
shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to solve, and even users can do it
for themselves, still the distro couldn't yet solve it. I wonder: if
such a trivial and easily workarounded issue is a blocker for a version
update of gnome-terminal, how come that totally breaking the keyboard
wasn't a blocker for the update of those components???

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1218322

Title:
  Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

Status in Gnome Settings Daemon:
  Invalid
Status in Ubuntu GNOME:
  Confirmed
Status in “gnome-control-center” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “gnome-settings-daemon” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in “gnome-settings-daemon” source package in Saucy:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  A PPA which should provide some relief for this issue is available at
  https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/1218322. There still remain
  issues regarding keyboard shortcuts though. To install:

  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:attente/1218322
  sudo apt-get update
  sudo apt-get upgrade

  === gnome-control-center ===

  Impact: the UI to change the layout switching keys doesn't work

  Test case:
  - open gnome-control-center's text input settings
  - click on the "next layout key" entry
  - try entering a key combinaison (e.g ctrl-space)
  -> the UI should reflect the new keys

  Regression potential: that UI was not working before, it should only
  be an improvement (some key combos are not working as expected, that's
  another issue and shouldn't be mixed with this one)

  === gnome-settings-daemon ===

  Impact: attempting to change keyboard layouts using only modifier keys
  doesn't work

  Test case:
  - add at least two input sources through gnome-control-center's text entry settings
  - use gsettings to set the input switching shortcut to ctrl+left shift: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-input-source "['<Primary>Shift_L']"
  - press and release ctrl+left shift
  -> the current input source should change

  Regression potential: The input switching shortcut might capture other
  non-modifier shortcuts, but users will need to consider this when
  choosing their switching shortcut anyways. For users this bug affects,
  this represents a working solution for a critical bug.

  ----------------------

  Test results for different keyboard layout change hotkeys may be
  viewed and added in the Google Docs table, created by Norbert
  (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ao5e713Ig9g_dEJrX2NRYlpLWWVzSWxsVXU4ck9HYVE&usp=sharing).

  ----------------------

  Separate bug reports for individual layout switching hotkey
  combinations:

  Super+Space and Shift+Super+Space:
     * Unity greeter (bug 1245137);
     * Unity session (bug 1245136);
     * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245138, bug 1245256);
     * ubiquity installer (bug 1242572).

  Alt+Shift:
     * Unity greeter (bug 1245258)
     * Can't set keyboard layout change to Alt+Shift (bug 1245926)

  Ctrl+Shift:
     * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245270)
     * Unity greeter (bug 1245268)
     * Can't set keyboard layout change to Ctrl+Shift (bug 1245991)
     * If keyboard layout switching hotkey is set to Ctrl+Shift, Ctrl+Shift+C/V are not working in gnome-terminal (bug 1246656)

  Shift+Shift:
     * Can't set keyboard layout change to Shift+Shift (bug 1245272)
     * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245278)
     * Unity greeter (bug 1245280)

  Bugs which belong to keyboard layout switching:
     * Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout in 13.10 (bug 1226962)
     * Keyboard Layout Options window is missed in gnome-control-center keyboard (bug 1245064)
     * Unable to set keyboard LED to show alternative layout in gnome-control-center keyboard in Saucy (bug 1245188)
     * Unable to set Miscellaneous compatibility options in gnome-control-center keyboard in Saucy (bug 1245199)
     * Keyboard shortcut for changing keyboard layout does not work on lock screen (bug 1244548)
     * [FFe] indicator-keyboard not working under greeter (bug 1228207)
     * Lost ability to remap Caps Lock to Ctrl (bug 1215826)
     * gnome-control-center keyboard no longer has way to modify caps lock key behavior (bug 1224575)
     * Pressing Caps Lock toggles LED even when mapped to another key (bug 1221403)
     * Switching layout turns off NumLock (bug 1247668)

  ----------------------

  Can't set keyboard layout change to ctrl+shift, Caps Lock, alt+shift
  etc. "Shift", "CapsLock" keys are just ignored in settings. Also the
  default shortcut was set to "Super+Space" that is inconveniently,
  because Dash is opening when you swich your keyboard layout.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10
  Package: indicator-keyboard 0.0.0+13.10.20130829.1-0ubuntu1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.11.0-2.5-generic 3.11.0-rc5
  Uname: Linux 3.11.0-2-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
  ApportVersion: 2.12.1-0ubuntu2
  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Thu Aug 29 14:21:54 2013
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-07-31 (28 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Alpha amd64 (20130730)
  MarkForUpload: True
  ProcEnviron:
   LANGUAGE=ru_UA:ru
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=<set>
   LANG=ru_UA.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: indicator-keyboard
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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