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[Mark Shuttleworth <1131664@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 28/08/2020 22:19, vexorian wrote:
> Maybe Gnome developers and Canonical can live in a pretend world where a
> Hamburger menu is a remotely-acceptable UX in A DESKTOP OS, but for
> those of us who use Ubuntu professionally this design is just not
> practical.

You are of course entirely correct. Hamburger menus are eye-wateringly
poor fallbacks at the best of times, and it's frustrating for me too to
see them all over the desktop. I say this to make the point that even
though we care, we are simply not able to sustain a divergent UX. I
loved the work we did on Unity, controversial as it was, and believe it
was taking free software desktops in a good direction, we just couldn't
afford it, and that was that.

Perhaps in future you'll draw the distinction between the things people
care about and the things they are able to change. We are, right now,
bringing a very wide range of good things to bear in the field of
desktop, appliances, clouds, containers. We just can't manage to have an
independent desktop design and delivery program, which I know from
experience is a huge amount of work. I'm grateful we can collaborate
with existing open source teams, we ship GNOME by default but we also
take *care* to help KDE, Mate, and several others with fewer hamburger
menus.

Mark

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Title:
  The default apps should have standard menubars under Unity

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Released
Status in File Roller:
  New
Status in gThumb:
  New
Status in Rhythmbox:
  Expired
Status in evince package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in file-roller package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-calculator package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-control-center package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gnome-mines package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
Status in gnote package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in gthumb package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
Status in nautilus package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in rhythmbox package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  When fixing this bug, also take a look at bug #1130722 at the same
  time if possible.

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  In Raring, the  'Calculator' app should have the following menu items:

  === Edit ===

  Copy
  Paste
  ---------
  Undo
  Redo
  ---------
  Preferences
  ---------
  Quit

  === Mode ===

  Basic
  Advanced
  Financial
  Programming

  === Help ===

  Contents
  About

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  In Raring, the  'System Settings' app should have the following menu
  items:

  === Help ===

  Contents
  [Optional link to help doc for the currently selected settings panel]
  ---------
  Quit

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