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Once again we have a problem communicating with the customer.  We still 
have all these old myths that are no longer true.

Bob! wrote:
> can i just say that windows has majority market share for a reason. imho
> ubuntu isnt nearly as good in a number of areas the concern the average
> user.

But the main reason is a lack of knowledge.

> for a start it isnt even possible to listen to mp3's or watch
> movies in default ubuntu.

Not true.  It is not possible to download a CD with the codecs for free 
because of licensing.  But if you buy a system with Ubuntu on it, it 
generally has the codecs pre-intalled.  Also, the Windows codec 
installer is a little more seamless in how it downloads codecs without 
you knowing.

> windows is popular because well 1 as it is
> already popular people just goto it and its in computer stores as
> default etc but 2. because anything u can do on any other operating
> system u can do on windows... play games, what have you. afaik no other
> OS can really make that claim.

Not true.  There are more than a few programs that only work on Linux, 
or work with severly reduced functionality on Windows.  Also, there are 
MANY programs that will only work on one version of Windows, so there is 
no version of anything that will "run it all."


> from my experiances with linux / windows
> i would personally say it works better " out of the box" aswell, which
> the average user (and me) like.

Which box? Are you comparing a pre-installed Windows box with a self 
install of Ubuntu?  That is comparing apples to jet aircraft.  I have 
delivered several Ubuntu systems, and the customers love them and want 
more.  While they are not for all purposes, they are amazing at some.

> i installed vista on my mothers computer
> and it didnt even need video drivers to run aero get hardware
> acceleration or play most simpler 3d games, the audio was nice and came
> with an equalizer etc by default.

Uh... No.  It needed drivers.  They were either already on the CD, or 
downloaded on the fly.  And the same thing happens with Ubuntu, with the 
right hardware.  And with the wrong hardware, both Ubuntu and Windows 
will have issues.

> linux on the other hand has outdated,
> imo poorly supported device drivers, i had problems with jacksense and i
> couldnt even find a basic equalizer or what have you.

There was a good nVidia article on phoronix talking about how most of 
the nVidia driver is shared code across all systems.  The main library 
is actually the same file.  I can not answer the audio mixing questions 
as I have never used it.

> imo linux will
> start earning more market share when it can compete on the same grounds
> as windows, and do more than what windows can do - preferably better.
> until then im afraid i have to keep using windows as my primary os,
> linux seems alright but it doesnt do everything i want it to - let alone
> easily.

This is the most telling part of your comment.  Linux already can 
compete on the same grounds as Windows, and can do things far better 
than Windows.  However, configuration is not trivial (Neither is 
Windows, but the mostly come pre-configured) and perception is way 
behind.  Also, the staggering amount of choice is overwhelming.

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Microsoft has a majority market share
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Bug description:
Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.

Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

Steps to repeat:

1. Visit a local PC store.

What happens:
2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed.
3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.

What should happen:
1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu.
2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all.
3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.