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[Friedrich Strohmaier <ubuntu_bugs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Allen, @ll,

Allen Graham schrieb:

>Hello Freidrich !  First, all operating systems have bugs.
>Probably Ubuntu is one of the best versions of Linux, but it is not,
>and never will be, completely free of bugs.

I know - I'm using Linux doing all my PC tasks since summer 2001..

[.. bad examples - nothing to be followed ..]

>IF, we all donated $50, or E50 etc, we could launch an ad campaign.
>So, it's about money.

I disagree..

>Base Linux O/S's are free. You can pay for support, customising etc.

I'm one paid for support - don't talk about effort/ernings relation..
:o))

>So, your problem with one bug should be addressed in "Launchpad".

I did so on several places - last one is here, which *is* Launchpad.
:o))

>Tell me, is there something similar in Microsoft or Apple ?

Thanks for the sermon :o)). I sadly notice I cannot detect how it
relates to my comment. Aparently I'm not able to present my message well
enough.

I end up here after
- I setup Bug #512622 - no response
- I asked for feedback in german ubuntu-de@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx whether
  something's wrong with my description. 
- Got feedback: might be misleading
- I dig more and found many bugdescriptions - less missleading
- I found Bug #255008 - more clear - with a bunch of dupes and added
  mine to the dupes list giving a comment with my search results and
  guesses - no response.
- last message was the bug to be closed "won't fix", because beeing
  filed against jaunty which reaches end of live.

As mentioned I estimate a properly working keyboard as a very basic
feature of *any* OS. If You don't believe - pull your keyboard's plug
and look how fare You go. Plug in again (don't do so with ps/2 plugged
keyboard while the machine is running!!) and imagine it doesn't what You
expect it to do.. How would You control your machine?

In my eyes the above is an absolute nogo for a LTS release!

I don't repeat the whole story, but You can easily see what I talk of:
On a machine running ubuntu 9.04 or any later, install and start
xkeycaps, choose your keyboard-type and for example hit the
*right <ctrl>* key. It tells the system: "here is *<pg_down>* key what
should I do for you?"
  
As xkeycaps lets watch You the keyboard with the eyes of xmodmap You
might say: "so kick xmodmap!" Exactly that was one of my proposals even
if the worst choice. 

What has to happen is to make a decision how to proceed with that. And I
expect it to do in a way that shows up "we control things!" and not that
way I notice: "This bug is fixed, when the reporter has died" ;o))

Here once more the link to my proposal how to proceed that issue:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/255008/comments/129

>On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier <
>
>ubuntu_bugs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Fixing this bug needs fixing of other severe bugs!
>>
>> One of them:
>> Bug #255008 is marked as "won't fix". There are a lot of duplicates
>> and it is reported to affect lucid lynx as well (even if filed
>> against intrepid ibex).
>>
>> Shure every one's bug is the most important (I'm no exception :o))),
>> but this one affects basic keyboardmapping in X-environment. The
>> keyboard up to now is the main interface to do things on a computer.
>> Not properly working keyboard means not properly working ubuntu!
>>
>> I repeat in this place:
>> Everyone with a xmodmap customized keyboard mapping doing a LTS
>> upgrade will run in unusable keyboard!
>>
>> here my resume (which took me 2 days of searching):
>>
>> 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/255008/comments/129
>>
>> If I did severe mistakes bringing this up - please point me out how
>> to do better! :o))

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Microsoft has a majority market share
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Status in Club Distro: Invalid
Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: Invalid
Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
Status in Ubuntu: Incomplete
Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: In Progress
Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: In Progress
Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Confirmed
Status in “linux” package in Debian: Confirmed
Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
Status in openSUSE: New
Status in Tilix Linux: New

Bug description:
Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.

Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

Steps to repeat:

1. Visit a local PC store.

What happens:
2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed.
3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.

What should happen:
1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu.
2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all.
3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.