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[Faldegast <faldegast@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> Before this degrades to a developer litigation - regarding the development:
> 1. I think there are really enough options for developing under Linux.

I think the problem is that there are to many options.

> 2. I don't see Visual Studio being sooo good. I used Visual Studio for
> more than 10 years and I felt way better after I switched to NetBeans
> and Java development.

NetBeans is very good for Java developmen, and Java have most of the
things i am talking about. The problem is native Linux development.
While NetBeans are really good for making Java apps, there are no equal
tool to make C/C++ apps. Lazarus is nice Delphi clone for Pascal
programming, but it lacks a good database library. Java has its JDBC
which is excellent.

> 3. It would be good if even every full idiot could use the
> libraries/APIs and the IDE. That would include a lot of crap being
> developed by a lot of people who do not really know about development,
> but for a better developer it would be either easy and the learning
> curve less steep which is important also for the new young developers
> entering the computer world.

Also do not forget that good developers usually was "idiots" when they
started. Many good developers started out by making crappy apps in
Visual Basic. Without VB they may not have started coding in the first
place.

> 4. A developer who has many years of experience with Windows and none
> with Linux surely has more difficulties developing for Linux - but
> more likely because of the lack of knowledge about the underlying OS.
> I don't think that the development/developers do hinder from current
> point of view to do the switch to Linux/Ubuntu - and the developers on
> the Linux side are very good IMHO.

There are many good developers for Linux and its true that they don't always need a nice RAD IDE environment. However my point is that without new amateur developers the pool of good developers will not grow.
 		 	   		  
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Bug description:
Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.

Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

Steps to repeat:

1. Visit a local PC store.

What happens:
2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed.
3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.

What should happen:
1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu.
2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all.
3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.