← Back to team overview

algeriatul team mailing list archive

Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

 

> "Time is money" implies 
>  
> Time = (some constant) x money
No. It implies:
Money = Market value x Time.

Or that Time=Money/Market value.
  
> We already know that velocity = time x distance so it would make just as much 
> sense (cents?) to say that velocity = money.  
Applied in the same context it does, where money=cost/distance x distance, of course the factor cost/distance that include time can be arbitrary complex.

> Also my grandma used to say that 
> "A stitch in time saves nine".  So logically we can deduce that she must have 
> been saying that "A stitch in money saves nine".
No, because "in time" is not synonymous with "time", so you cant replace it.

>  Some people say that "money is 
> the root of all evil".  So therefore "A stitch in the root of all evil saves 
> nine"? And of course time (divided by constant) is obviously the root of all 
> evil.
And obviously neither is money. And time is money is still limited by context. It specificaly refers to the temporal usage of a limited and quantifiable resource. In this case it was further limited to the context of labor, even if it can be used in a slightly wider context.

> How do i value time at work?  If i am fixing some Windows problem and i happen 
> to mention that linux would not even have the problem in the first place and 
> while fixing the Windows problem i chat about how easy it would be to set-up a 
> dual-boot then how much is that time worth?
Perhaps you also should stay these ease in money. What does it cost them/the company to set up dual boot. What does it cost them/the company to not. As it is work I suspect that you are spending this time solving problems for free.

>  If i am watching tele with the 
> family how do i value that time?  Does that time have greater or lesser value 
> than time spent playing frisbee in the park with my son or watching him perform 
> in a play.  Who do i charge for my time in those cases?
You charge yourself of course. What is it worth is for you to decide, but obviously its worth enough for you to not sell this time by working.

>  If i do voluntary work 
> and get no pay is my time worthless or priceless?
What would it cost if you paid someone to do this work?
For example if you spend a day serving food to homeless people what is this worth? If you spent that day working and donated all that money to an organization that hired homeless people to run that operation, what would that be worth. Both could be considered voluntary work, but the value of each is quite different. The point is that if you are gonna do voluntary work, it may be good to do what you do best.

However the example above may not be that simple. What if its very
relaxing for you to work serving food to the homeless. Then it would be
a health improvement, something that is also valuable and could be
measured in money.

>  If i invite a newspaper 
> reporter to report on a story on an event my business is involved in and linux 
> "just happens" to get into the story then who do i charge for that?  Who do i 
> pay for random acts of kindness people do for me during the day?
Just because something is worth money it doesn't mean that someone is willing to pay for it. Especially if you do it before you ask someone to pay for it. Its value can be compared to product placement and worth a similar amount of money, however is you do it for free that makes that cost land in your knee.

However i think that we are quite off topic now. :)

My point is that the Ubuntu/Linux community is worth a lot of money.
Much more money then Microsoft. They have 88, 596 employees. As they are
not a community buy a corporation they are limited to that. They have
have lots and lots of auxiliaries like HP and DELL, but they not a part
of Microsoft. How much people do we have? I dont really have an idea but
i would guess on A LOT more.

Now what do we NOT have? We have people so that's not it. We have a
(damn good) operating system, so that's not it. We have a decent support
infrastructure so that's not it.

No what we do not have is a plan including a strategy and leadership to execute it. And note my usage of singularis here. How do we put Linux side by side with Windows on the store-shelves? The short answer is that we use all the reasonless we have at hand. The hundreds of thousends Linux fans that easily outnumbers Microsoft employees. We also use the infrastructure at hand, the great OS and the support infrastructure. 
 		 	   		  
_________________________________________________________________
Är din dator en skvallerbytta? Testa den här!
 http://channels.se.msn.com/channelizers/IE_skvallerbyttan.aspx

-- 
Microsoft has a majority market share
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu 4
dz, which is a direct subscriber.

Status in Club Distro: Confirmed
Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress
Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress
Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
Status in Tv-Player: New
Status in Ubuntu: In Progress
Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid
Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid
Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid
Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress
Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
Status in openSUSE: In Progress
Status in Tilix Linux: New

Bug description:
Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.

Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

Steps to repeat:

1. Visit a local PC store.

What happens:
2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed.
3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.

What should happen:
1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu.
2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all.
3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.







References