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[Martin Wildam <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 17:46, Faldegast <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes. We should strive to have as much hardware as possible. But still
> without valuable time and money to support vendors that ignore us.

Full ACK, the vendors that continously ignore the Linux/Ubuntu
community should be ignored either by the community.


> Router corporation does not support Linux? Then we
> should build our own routers with components that is certified for
> Linux. There are quite many of us that want such a thing so we should be
> able to finance it.

I think the financing issue should be solved either (I think you
touched that issue in your comment either). There is something like a
portal required where many companies or individuals can share the
costs of implementing a feature or fixing particular problems/bugs or
building a driver etc.


> Web Services have developed into something really good and fast for remote OOP, once protocols liberated from XML appeared. "Binary XML" like Fast Infoset is currently the best solution for remoting.

Don't know, what you mean with "binary XML", but XML and HTML are
quite the worst formats ever existed. Why? - Because it is quite
impossible to build a really efficient parser, nor allow those formats
continuously append operations. YAML and JSON are already doing a
better job, but IMHO yet not the optimum. That said, the bottleneck
mostly is the transfer bandwidth anyway so the more time needed for
parsing is secondary.


> I think its a bit amusing that Web Services that was supposed to be XML
> and easy to read is developing into a fast binary protocol like RPC. In
> the end speed does matter.

E.g. SOAP is one of the worst things I have ever seen. I hate it.


> I think we really need the input from some kernel hacker here.

And here probably is not the best location to continue this
discussion...


> Also designing something to work on all platforms including Windows will
> help bridge the #1-bug as it may lure Windows developers away from COM
> and other Windows-specific technology.

Indeed, one of the most important things at this point in history is,
to offer solutions that work everywhere so Windows (or Mac) users can
try and when they see, that they can work with the same applications
even if they would switch to Linux/*buntu they would be more likely to
give it a try and enjoy.


> Having high market shares in five years is not always as
> important as providing a good report this quarter. They may not even
> work at Microsoft in five years, but need their CV to look good.

The slow and steady success outweighs the short-term success...


> Migration to a new version of Ubuntu is a lot less painless if you can
> run it side by side with the old version. Live migration is also cool
> but of limited value on the desktop.

I never run side-by-side - simply just because: Why waste HD space -
even if it is just 4 GB? No matter how big a HD is, it tends to be
full anyway (just like basements). ;-)

I think, we are going to much in detail to be discussed here, but
anyway, good that those things have been mentioned...
-- 
Martin Wildam

http://www.google.com/profiles/mwildam

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Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.

Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

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2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed.
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