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[Setve Gentilly <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know
that......

I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and
they warned me about your type........

Maybe Windows is the best system...............

I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worthy of my
attention.

Gentilli.



On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Tom <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> This bug report is not about how difficult or easy OSes are to install.  It
> is
> about how difficult it is to buy a machine with a decent OS pre-installed.
>
> @ Martin
>
> I think we are agreeing but have semantic differences.  Imo an install is
> not
> complete until the system is tweaked and made usable for the use the user
> requires.  A basic install of Windows is not ready to use imo.  A basic
> install
> of Ubuntu is also not fully ready (imo) but has stuff ready to use that
> Windows
> doesn't and usually takes less to get it ready.
>
> To get Windows to the same level as Ubuntu you have to install many
> programs
> such as Office (i would use OpenOffice in Windows, not MicroSquish Office,
> and
> Firefox not IE for safety and security).  'Obviously' for
> OpenOffice/LibreOffice
> i would do
>
> Tools - Options - Load/Save
> to set all the defaults to the unsafe ".doc" and ".xls" ones that people
> prefer
> in the Windows-world.
>
> Then both Windows & Ubuntu need multimedia players (Vlc for both, also
> MPlayer
> for Ubuntu and hopefully Zoom Player for Windows), Gimp (for both) and
> whichever
> other packages the user would appear to need from whatever they have been
> talking about, mostly Ubuntu already covers those but Windows doesn't.
>  Ubuntu
> makes a lot of that easy by following the Community Documentation Medibuntu
> page
> but there are countless blogs, magazines and stuff either in the fake-world
> or
> online that cover the multimedia issues.
>
> Both Windows and Ubuntu need drivers for any oddly awkward hardware.  For
> Ubuntu
> these are mostly online but it may take some hunting to find them.  For
> Windows
> you might need to find that crusty old Cd that came with the device.
>  Inevitably
> some stuff wont work with Windows because "it is too old and you should buy
> a
> new device and stop being such a cheapskate".  With Ubuntu some newer stuff
> wont
> work but might do fairly soon especially if you post a bug-report about it.
>  Ati
> & NVidia have communities doing a lot of work right now and updates happen
> quite
> frequently.  Even the companies themselves are making efforts to provide
> more
> support (for fear of losing customers now linux usage is reaching above
> 4%).
> Other companies will follow their lead.
>
> Both Windows and Ubuntu will need to be updated and this is one area that
> Ubuntu
> really scores highly because it does everything, all the codecs, libraries,
> drivers, programs, packages, everything all in one go & you can walk away
> and
> leave it to get on with it with no further interaction.  Windows will
> usually
> require several reboots and requires the update process to be repeated many
> times before it is 'completely' updated.  Also Windows tends to  make a
> fuss
> about stuff requiring user-input.  Also Windows doesn't update any of the
> drivers or programs, not even free ones such as Adobe flash-player or pdf
> reader.  So an ubuntu system is fully patched and ready whereas a Windows
> one
> seldom reaches that stage.
>
> Both systems often need tweaking to set which applications are preferred
> for
> certain tasks (right-click on a file-type and set what it opens with)
> although
> with Windows you seldom get a choice and just have to be careful about
> which
> programs you install last as each one grabs control.  With Ubuntu you can
> finesse it at almost any point.
>
> However, none of this is what this bug-report is about.  All of this
> depends on
> the skill (in the particular OS they are attempting to install) of the
> person
> doing the install and how easy they find it to access useful help if they
> run
> into problems.  Again, that is not what this bug-report is about.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
> --
> Microsoft has a majority market share
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in Club Distro: Confirmed
> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
> Status in GNOME Screensaver: Won't Fix
> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
> Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
> Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress
> Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress
> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress
> Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
> Status in Tv-Player: New
> Status in Ubuntu: In Progress
> Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid
> Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid
> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid
> Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress
> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
> Status in openSUSE: In Progress
> Status in Tilix Linux: New
>
> Bug description:
> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.
>
> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
> restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and
> limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential,
> globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
>
> Steps to repeat:
>
> 1. Visit a local PC store.
>
> What happens:
> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software
> pre-installed.
> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like
> Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
> benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
>
>
>
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>

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Microsoft has a majority market share
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu 4
dz, which is a direct subscriber.

Status in Club Distro: Confirmed
Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
Status in GNOME Screensaver: Won't Fix
Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress
Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress
Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress
Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
Status in Tv-Player: New
Status in Ubuntu: In Progress
Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid
Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid
Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid
Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress
Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
Status in openSUSE: In Progress
Status in Tilix Linux: New

Bug description:
Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.

Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

Steps to repeat:

1. Visit a local PC store.

What happens:
2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed.
3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.

What should happen:
1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu.
2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all.
3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.