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[Setve Gentilly <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know
that......

I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and
they warned me about your type........

Maybe Windows is the best system...............

I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worthy of my
attention.

Gentilli.



On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:37 PM, mzc <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> @faldegast. You are suggesting an approach that led to mandriva 's
> downfall.
> On Oct 22, 2010 10:26 AM, "Faldegast" <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > What i suggest for Ubuntu is the following:
> >
> > 1. A Ubuntu/Linux/Elf software store. It should be designed so that it
> > can ship applications for many OS:es, not just Ubuntu.
> >
> > 2. A Ubuntu Pro commercial offering. Including boxed Ubuntu, a manual,
> > and support. Also some commercial stuff like DVD player.
> >
> > Ubuntu currently has Fluendo Windows Media and MP3 Playback Pack, Fluendo
> Complete Playback Pack and PowerDVD Linux in its online shop. These should
> either be provided trough a software store, or included in "Ubuntu Pro".
> > I would also see more commercial Linux applications there. For example i
> know there is a Ubuntu version of Majesty. I know for sure that i would buy
> that.
> >
> > 3. Both of above need a reseller plan. OEMs that preinstall a software
> > store or Ubuntu Pro have to make money out of it. And Ubuntu pro should
> > not be cheap.
> >
> > A software store and a commercial Linux with a distribution network is
> > what we need. I am certain that this is exactly what we need. For
> > servers we have RHEL but for clients the only thing available is
> > Mandriva, but they effort to build a distribution network is to weak.
> > They focus on an online store, and I believe thats their weakness.
> > Operating Systems is OEM products and they are usually sold with
> > computers, so we must target the OEM builders.
> >
> > While i have talked a lot about technology on this issue, technology is
> > not a #1 bug issue. We have technology, what we need to fix bug #1 is
> > marketing.
> >
> > There is no reason why Linux should have less usage share then OS X.
> > Linux can run on much more hardware that OS X supports, and it have a
> > great community.
> >
> > On another front, i think the idea of recycling old computers with
> > Ubuntu and give them to those that cannot afford a brand new PC is
> > excellent. I have done this a lot with lubuntu on really old computers.
> > I also have a ThinLinc server that can be used to run applications that
> > old computers are to weak to run. Its not fast enough for youtube,
> > however they can play mpeg2. Perhaps an application like minitube can
> > use a proxy server for transcoding to mpeg2 before a clip reach the old
> > box?
> >
> >
> >> Martin,
> >>
> >> True. Again i agree with that and i think we are in agreement again. So
> the
> >> various points people have made are valid except where we talk about
> noobs
> >> installing.
> >>
> >>
> >> Surely a shop that installs to perhaps tens of machines has time to play
> around
> >> with even just 1 and has probably noticed all the quirkiness of
> installing
> >> Windows onto a wide range of very different machines and might realise
> that
> >> lack of knowledge might be the main barrier to a smoother install of
> Ubuntu (or
> >> other distro). Perhaps it is those people that we should target rather
> than
> >> normal users or people that do the odd one or two. Continuing to
> approach
> both
> >> is probably still best.
> >>
> >> Regards from
> >> Tom :)
> >
> > --
> > Microsoft has a majority market share
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
> > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> > of the bug.
> >
> > Status in Club Distro: Confirmed
> > Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
> > Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
> > Status in GNOME Screensaver: Won't Fix
> > Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
> > Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
> > Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress
> > Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress
> > Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress
> > Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
> > Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
> > Status in Tv-Player: New
> > Status in Ubuntu: In Progress
> > Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> > Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid
> > Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid
> > Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid
> > Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress
> > Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
> > Status in openSUSE: In Progress
> > Status in Tilix Linux: New
> >
> > Bug description:
> > Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
> > This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.
> >
> > Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
> restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and
> limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential,
> globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
> >
> > Steps to repeat:
> >
> > 1. Visit a local PC store.
> >
> > What happens:
> > 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software
> pre-installed.
> > 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
> >
> > What should happen:
> > 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like
> Ubuntu.
> > 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
> benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> > 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscribe
>
> --
> Microsoft has a majority market share
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in Club Distro: Confirmed
> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
> Status in GNOME Screensaver: Won't Fix
> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
> Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
> Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress
> Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress
> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress
> Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
> Status in Tv-Player: New
> Status in Ubuntu: In Progress
> Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid
> Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid
> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid
> Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress
> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
> Status in openSUSE: In Progress
> Status in Tilix Linux: New
>
> Bug description:
> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.
>
> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
> restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and
> limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential,
> globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
>
> Steps to repeat:
>
> 1. Visit a local PC store.
>
> What happens:
> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software
> pre-installed.
> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like
> Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
> benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscribe
>
>

-- 
Microsoft has a majority market share
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu 4
dz, which is a direct subscriber.

Status in Club Distro: Confirmed
Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
Status in GNOME Screensaver: Won't Fix
Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress
Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress
Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress
Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
Status in Tv-Player: New
Status in Ubuntu: In Progress
Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid
Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid
Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid
Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress
Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
Status in openSUSE: In Progress
Status in Tilix Linux: New

Bug description:
Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.

Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

Steps to repeat:

1. Visit a local PC store.

What happens:
2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed.
3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.

What should happen:
1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu.
2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all.
3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.