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[Martin Eisenhardt <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Get lost. We will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if you are worthy  
of our attention.

On 23.10.2010, at 07:25, Setve Gentilly wrote:

> You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know
> that......
>
> I am a senior technician for windows systems with many  
> certifications, and
> they warned me about your type........
>
> Maybe Windows is the best system...............
>
> I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worthy of my
> attention.
>
> Gentilli.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Randall Ross (rrnwexec) <
> randall@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Did you bother to check which systems are certified first?
>> http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/
>>
>> Think of your experiences in the Windows world. You likely have used
>> hardware that is stickered "Windows Ready", "Works with Windows" etc.
>>
>> The Ubuntu world is no different, and Ubuntu does NOT work on
>> everything. Please reset expectations accordingly.
>>
>> More here if you are interested:
>> http://randall.executiv.es/uwoe3
>>
>>
>> On 10-10-20 11:21 AM, Setve Gentilly wrote:
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> Let me explain it another way so that you may have a better idea  
>>> of what
>> I
>>> am trying to explain here.
>>>
>>> I only buy products from some of the following manufactures; XFX,  
>>> EVGA,
>>> Asus, Cooler Master, OCZ, Westen Digital, Silverstone, Corsair,  
>>> Samsung,
>>> etc., etc., etc.
>>> When I get a new system (which I get regularly) after it is  
>>> assembled it
>>> take me 1 to 1.5 hours to install Windows, the drivers and the  
>>> necessary
>>> software to get it to function at 100% efficiency.  I don't have  
>>> the time
>> to
>>> fart around and mess with Operating systems and drivers that don't  
>>> even
>> run
>>> on a double click from the mouse, nor do I have the time to learn  
>>> a new
>>> programing language (although I do know a few), no thank you.
>>> Let me give you an example, I installed Ubuntu 10.10RC on an AMD  
>>> machine
>>> with an Asus board and an XFX HD 5770.  When it came time to  
>>> install the
>> ATI
>>> drivers from ATI, I ran the package and it said nothing to me so I
>> rebooted
>>> and guess what, it was not installed. So I then proceeded to  
>>> install the
>>> third party drivers that Ubuntu suggested.  Well, what a great  
>>> performing
>>> card........ It gave 50GFLOPS instead of the 1400GFLOPS Windows  
>>> gives me.
>>> I don't have time to fart around for days or weeks to get the  
>>> machine
>>> working 100%.
>>>
>>> When Ubuntu is as easy to install as Windows, then I will have  
>>> another
>> look
>>> at it.
>>> Not till then.......
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Gentilli.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:23 PM, houstonbofh <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/20/2010 12:58 PM, Setve Gentilly wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I have 4 computers that I cannot even install Ubuntu on because  
>>>>> Ubuntu
>>>> does
>>>>> not have the necessary drivers.
>>>>> There are another 2 that I can install Ubuntu on but because the  
>>>>> video
>>>>> drivers are not very good they do not function at full capacity  
>>>>> and my
>>>>> add-in cards don't have drivers for Ubuntu.
>>>>> My systems are high-end machines, not your stock stuff that Ubuntu
>> works
>>>> on.
>>>>> So you see until Ubuntu makes drivers for all these wonderful  
>>>>> add-in
>>>> cards
>>>>> and proper video drivers Ubuntu will not exist in my house.
>>>> I don't believe you.  I have high end machines too...  They all  
>>>> work.
>>>> (About 25)  Some took some effort, but only a few systems with  
>>>> old and
>>>> cheap stuff.  This is being typed on a Gigabyte X58A-UD3R  
>>>> motherboard
>>>> with a Inetl Corei7 Quad core, and nVidia GTS250 graphics with 24  
>>>> gig of
>>>> ram.  (Work system, so that is why the low end graphics)  Worked  
>>>> out of
>>>> the box with Lucid.  I believe there is a lot more to your  
>>>> story.  Like
>>>> perhaps your "high end" stuff is the cheapest Chinese components  
>>>> you can
>>>> source...  And they don't have drivers?  <shock>  Those can take  
>>>> a bit
>>>> more effort.  Or perhaps the well known Intel i855 graphics  
>>>> chipset bug?
>>>> (Fixed in Maverik, by the way)
>>>>
>>>> Only being willing to put an hour into learning a new system is  
>>>> not a
>>>> bug we can easily patch.
>>>>
>>>> But if you want help, go ahead and e-mail me.  I bet I can find  
>>>> drivers
>>>> for much of your stuff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Microsoft has a majority market share
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
>> You received this bug notification because you are a direct  
>> subscriber
>> of the bug.
>>
>> Status in Club Distro: Confirmed
>> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
>> Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
>> Status in GNOME Screensaver: Won't Fix
>> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
>> Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
>> Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress
>> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress
>> Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
>> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
>> Status in Tv-Player: New
>> Status in Ubuntu: In Progress
>> Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
>> Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid
>> Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid
>> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid
>> Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress
>> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
>> Status in openSUSE: In Progress
>> Status in Tilix Linux: New
>>
>> Bug description:
>> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC  
>> marketplace.
>> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.
>>
>> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
>> restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population  
>> and
>> limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full  
>> potential,
>> globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
>>
>> Steps to repeat:
>>
>> 1. Visit a local PC store.
>>
>> What happens:
>> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software
>> pre-installed.
>> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>>
>> What should happen:
>> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software  
>> like
>> Ubuntu.
>> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing  
>> features and
>> benefits would be apparent and known by all.
>> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time  
>> passes.
>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscribe
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Microsoft has a majority market share
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.

-- 
Microsoft has a majority market share
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu 4
dz, which is a direct subscriber.

Status in Club Distro: Confirmed
Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
Status in GNOME Screensaver: Won't Fix
Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress
Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress
Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress
Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
Status in Tv-Player: New
Status in Ubuntu: In Progress
Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid
Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid
Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid
Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress
Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
Status in openSUSE: In Progress
Status in Tilix Linux: New

Bug description:
Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.

Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

Steps to repeat:

1. Visit a local PC store.

What happens:
2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed.
3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.

What should happen:
1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu.
2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all.
3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.