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[Martin Wildam <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 14:06, turbolad <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Have the Ubuntu team considered trialling the newest Unity interface
> with newbies who have never used or seen Ubuntu before?

I am tired of the focus winning the dummy users. The reality is:
Nobody is giving Ubuntu (or other Linux distro) any chance or any try
if there are not peole in the near (in most cases physical
neighbourhood required) who can help out. And in most cases it's the
people around that push others to try it.

As far as I can see at least in Austria and Germany the very major
Ubuntu/Linux user base is in IT business and those are the multiplying
factor and an important base of the community (as they are doing the
mostly free support). Loose them (the IT folks and such power users)
and you loose all! - This should be my major message at this point!

Unfortunately a big portion of IT and such power users are not
satisfied with Unity. I personally do prefer Unity over Gnome 3 and I
understand Mark's decision going a different direction. On the other
hand there are many other environments - e.g. XFCE - why not
contribute there instead of starting over at zero? - I need to do a
lot of testing and I assume that I have to expect problems (e.g.
NXClient and Server which even non-power-users use - of course I
installed and configured it for them) as the client does not offer
unity as choice when connecting to the server).


> If Unity can be
> worked on, made faster and stop it conflicting with Wine (Unity makes
> Wine run *very* slow, GNOME does not), I think Ubuntu will have a better
> chance of succeeding.

Personally I use Wine in the one and only case of TeamViewer (because
the Linux version ships with it's own version of it). I do not have
any further use of Wine. For Windows crap that I need to use I have a
VirtualBox running. From my point of view, those who want to game
should either use the Linux games available or should buy an X-Box
(which I consider quite similar to any other Windows version ;-) ). I
never installed a dual boot so far as for me it does not make any
sense.

Thanks for mentioning possible issues - so I have to test that as well
in an intensive manner (puhh - a lot of work waiting).


> Also consider that Ubuntu is generally used as a second operating
> system, with Microsoft Windows kept for things that don't run in Ubuntu
> e.g. Nokia Ovi Suite.

Who nowadays cares about the Nokia suite? - Switch to an Android phone!

While you consider Ubuntu as second OS, I use it as my primary OS
since 2009 even at work under several conditions everywhere having
Windows around me.
I need a stable and reliable OS that operates well everywhere. With a
very few exceptions everything works well. However, after 9.04, 9.10
and 10.04 I have seen reduced stability and hence I am still on 10.04.
I really need a stable 12.04 - and I hope it will be!


> This is why Unity needs to be faster, because
> Ubuntu is usually installed on older computers when people buy newer
> ones with Windows 7.

Unity needs to be at least faster than Windows 7/8 on _recent_
machines because otherwise I get laughed by the Windows users sitting
next to me. On older machines I install Xubuntu or Lubuntu anyway
because they are much more lightweight. On my primary machine I don't
need just speed, I also need features - where e.g. Lubuntu falls too
short for me (YMMV).

Best regards, Martin.
-- 
Martin Wildam

http://sites.google.com/site/mwildam/

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Title:
  Microsoft has a majority market share

Status in Club Distro:
  Confirmed
Status in Computer Science Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite:
  New
Status in dylan.NET.Reflection:
  Invalid
Status in dylan.NET:
  Invalid
Status in EasyPeasy Overview:
  Invalid
Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians:
  Invalid
Status in JAK LINUX:
  Invalid
Status in LibreOffice:
  In Progress
Status in The Linux Kernel:
  New
Status in The Linux Mint Distribution:
  In Progress
Status in The Linux OS Project:
  In Progress
Status in The Metacity Window Manager:
  In Progress
Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
  In Progress
Status in Tabuntu:
  Invalid
Status in A simple player to online TV streaming:
  Invalid
Status in Tv-Player:
  New
Status in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team Meta Project:
  In Progress
Status in Ubuntu Gnome Remix Metapackages:
  In Progress
Status in Ubuntu:
  In Progress
Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress
Status in The Jaunty Jackalope:
  Invalid
Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty:
  Invalid
Status in Arch Linux:
  New
Status in Baltix GNU/Linux:
  Invalid
Status in “linux” package in Debian:
  In Progress
Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS:
  Confirmed
Status in openSUSE:
  In Progress
Status in Tilix Linux:
  New

Bug description:
  Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
  This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.

  Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
  restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and
  limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full
  potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

  Steps to repeat:

  1. Visit a local PC store.

  What happens:
  2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed.
  3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.

  What should happen:
  1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu.
  2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all.
  3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.

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