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On 09/30/2012 05:33 PM, Martin Wildam wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Guruprasad <lgp171188@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1055766
>
> While funny on one side, it seems that some more important issues are
> overlooked currently:

I would say far more than funny. :)  But also, quite sad.

In the rush to be everything to the new user, the experienced user is 
being thrown under the bus.  (You may argue that this is not your 
intent, but the view from under the bus says intent is not the only 
issue.)  I have not seen an exodus like this since Windows ME.  And it 
is not just Unity (since now you can get full Gnome 2 functionality 
without to many ugly hacks) or the Amazon ads (since your can turn them 
off) or the dumping of the alternate install disk, a tool without which 
this system I am typing on currently now could not have been installed 
on. (Graphics glitch which while fixable, it required changing things on 
the install and a reboot, something hard to do on a Live CD)

It is the fact that over and over (including in the humorous thread 
listed) we are being told we are wrong.  (Example 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1055766/comments/4 
)  We are being told that they way we choose to do things is not the way 
they should be done, and if we don't like it, go to Lubuntu. The thing 
is that when you do that, you loose people.  (Not just to Lubuntu, but 
you loose the spirit they once had.)  I still promote Ubuntu, but not 
like I once did.  I was the recruitment guy for the Houston LoCo.  I 
sponsored Ubuntu hours, and launch parties.  I even mentioned Ubuntu in 
an InformationWeek interview.  I worked to get Ubuntu installed on 
Desktops in two different companies I worked in since I started using 
Breezy, but I would not do so now.  (I still recommend it for 
non-technical new users and tablet fans.)  It is far to risky.

In the rush to get the new people, I am seeing something I had not seen 
in the Ubuntu community before; Churn.  Churn is expensive, and is a 
regression towards fixing Bug1.  I am not saying the direction you are 
going is a bad one.  Just to look at the people you are leaving behind...

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Title:
  Microsoft has a majority desktop market share

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  New
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Bug description:
  Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
  This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.

  Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
  restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and
  limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full
  potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

  Steps to repeat:

  1. Visit a local PC store.

  What happens:
  2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed.
  3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.

  What should happen:
  1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu.
  2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all.
  3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.

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