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[Martin Wildam <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Tom <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I am curious about setting up a login to a Ctirx server btw.  Could you give links or contact me off-list?

I have sent you information.


> Also a LOT of times i find that people claim to have become infected by
> some sort of virus as a way out of admitting they might have done
> something themselves to create the problem. [...]  Ok, so
> i've not found people doing that but they do somehow install all sorts
> of strange crap and then blame anyone but themselves for having tons of
> toolbars in their web-browser.

In the case I mentioned there were viruses - definitely. And with IE
(needed for work by this person) without any adblocker etc whereever
you go you see at least 5 download buttons -  even if you don't want
to - it is easy to accidently download wrong things. Horror!


> 1.  Under coordinated attacks from thousands or millions of machines all at the same time
> 2.  One network of servers that was left unpatched for 6 years and didn't even have a maintenance chap sweeping away
> cobwebs between machines!  Not even so much as a reboot or even a glance through their logs.

I worked at a company where security issues of several web apps
(written in PHP) were used to drop other PHP web apps and so they got
an MP3 and video host (of course just for a while until the admin
noticed it).


> On the other hand i have seen people having to reboot Windows servers
> every few days and keep patched wekly and put a lot of time into dealing
> with all sorts of petty issues even for a simple internet-gateway,
> little more than a router really.

Yup, I know. Of course, windows usually needs more attention. However,
in such things I don't want to compare a pitty situation (Linux) with
a total desaster (Windows). I want to have problems solved instead of
being happy, that I am not worse. ;-)


> As for Gnu&Linux getting infected it's a relative term.  People i have had to trust have given me infected files which my
> system remained immune to and oblivious of and then i have passed the file on to other people.
> Nowadays i tend to run an antivirus program purely to stop myself accidentally passing on such infected files from other
> people.

Some people say that if Linux would be more widely used there would be
more virus for it. I am not sure - I think there are some differences
in the system (e.g. the executable flag) that make life harder for a
Virus. Other things, like not working with full admin permissions is
something that in the meantime even Windows users do in many cases and
something like sudo (confirm administrative tasks) also exists on
Windows in the meantime.


> People such as Google are known to respond quickly if/when problems
> arise. They don't spend the best part of 3 years adamantly insisting
> there is no problem

Don't know - I have written them of the probably hijacked server, but
no response since then.

Greetings, Martin.

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Title:
  Microsoft has a majority market share

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Bug description:
  Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC
  marketplace. This is a bug which Ubuntu and other projects are meant
  to fix. As the philosophy of the Ubuntu Project states, "Our work is
  driven by a belief that software should be free and accessible to
  all."

  "Ubuntu software is free. Always was, always will be. Free software gives everyone the freedom to use it however they want and share with whoever they like. This freedom has huge benefits. At one end of the spectrum it enables the Ubuntu community to grow and share its collective experience and expertise to continually improve all things Ubuntu. At the other, we are able to give access to essential software for those who couldn’t otherwise afford it – an advantage that’s keenly felt by individuals and organisations all over the world."
       * http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy

  Non-free software leaves users at the mercy of the software owner and
  concentrates control over the technology which powers our society into
  the hands of a few. Additionally, proprietary software stifles
  innovation, maintains artificial scarcities, and enables malicious
  anti-features such as DRM, surveillance, and other monopolistic
  practices.

  This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

  Steps to repeat:

      1. Visit a local PC store.
      2. Attempt to buy a machine without any proprietary software.

  What happens:

  Almost always, a majority of PCs for sale have Microsoft Windows pre-
  installed. In the rare cases that they come with a GNU/Linux operating
  system or no operating system at all, the drivers and BIOS may be
  proprietary.

  What should happen:

  A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software.

       * http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
       * http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
       * http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd

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