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[Martin Wildam <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Graham <ubuntu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> If I walked into a PC World and started ranting off about the lack of support for Linux I would be escorted off the premises.
> And you know it.

And that's why sometimes Linux folks are put into the same basket as
anarchists or even terrorists.


> As far as complaining to the CEO...  have you considered what is in it for them?

That's indeed one of the first problems: While the IT admins and
developers are mostly already pro-Linux and some users even, it's the
CEOs that decide. And that's why the year of the Linux desktop will
not come before the young pro-Linux users get into CEO positions
(which I think may probably occur in 30 years - if so).

In my opinion a switch to Open Source pays off in the long run. Most
managers do consider only the next quarter, so here already begins the
problem.


> Do you think you could provide a business case why PC world should
> invest in Linux products if there is no market pull and no return?

Only yesterday I had a discussion with an IT admin about some software
and he complained, that he would use more platform independent
software or Linux software if there would exist the appropriate
software. The point is: As long as the customers are not telling
company xyz: "Hey, your product looked interesting, but you don't
support Linux so I don't buy it", no vendor sees the need to act.
Fortunately some vendors care in the meantime.

Only if the customers say no - definitely no - to propriatary
solutions, vendors need to act accordingly.


> This is what they are being told by the Microsoft.
> ....with a side salad of withdrawing volume discounts if they even dare to speak the word "Linux".

And this is what we have seen with Dell...


> Like I say, I hate that this is the situation, but we are not dealing with a level playing field here.
> This is why it needs a class action case to level the playing field.

Agree with you.

Best regards, Martin.

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Title:
  Microsoft has a majority market share

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Bug description:
  Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC
  marketplace. This is a bug which Ubuntu and other projects are meant
  to fix. As the philosophy of the Ubuntu Project states, "Our work is
  driven by a belief that software should be free and accessible to
  all."

  "Ubuntu software is free. Always was, always will be. Free software gives everyone the freedom to use it however they want and share with whoever they like. This freedom has huge benefits. At one end of the spectrum it enables the Ubuntu community to grow and share its collective experience and expertise to continually improve all things Ubuntu. At the other, we are able to give access to essential software for those who couldn’t otherwise afford it – an advantage that’s keenly felt by individuals and organisations all over the world."
       * http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy

  Non-free software leaves users at the mercy of the software owner and
  concentrates control over the technology which powers our society into
  the hands of a few. Additionally, proprietary software stifles
  innovation, maintains artificial scarcities, and enables malicious
  anti-features such as DRM, surveillance, and other monopolistic
  practices.

  This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

  Steps to repeat:

      1. Visit a local PC store.
      2. Attempt to buy a machine without any proprietary software.

  What happens:

  Almost always, a majority of PCs for sale have Microsoft Windows pre-
  installed. In the rare cases that they come with a GNU/Linux operating
  system or no operating system at all, the drivers and BIOS may be
  proprietary.

  What should happen:

  A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software.

       * http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
       * http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
       * http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd

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