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[zakzor <zakzor@xxxxxxxxx>]

"So wearables (incl watches) (...) are likely to keep using unix-based
systems, usually specifically gnu&linux."

Tizen is one of them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen

Regards,
zakzor

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016, 12:35 Tom <1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi :)
> While this is still true and unlikely to change many people are using
> chromebooks, tablets, phones and other devices to do things that they
> previously would have had to use a desktop to do.  Laptops have also become
> much more popular too.  A few years ago some study allegedly found that 80%
> of computer usage is now done using tablets and phones.
>
> For tablets and phones gnu&linux is king.  Android is a flavour of
> gnu&linux on a layer of java.  Blackberry is gnu&linux, and of course
> Chrome is too.  iPads and iPhones, really anything Apple, is a flavour of
> BSD, which is another unix-based system = practically a sister/brother of
> gnu&linux.  Apparently only about 1% of hand-helds (tablets and phones etc)
> use a Windows-based system.  Windows has one major disadvantage in trying
> to run on hand-helds which is that it's a huge great big bloated behemoth
> despite their best efforts at slashing it down-to-size.  It just about
> manages to cope on laptops but when they tried to push it onto netbooks it
> performed so badly that it killed the entire netbook market.  We see some
> resurgence of the netbook market through Chromebooks but people are still
> wary of that form-factor, thanks to Windows.
>
> Windows are attempting to rewrite Windows to work on Arm chips, having
> recently abandoned their earlier recent attempt, but it's likely they will
> still need vast amounts of resources, such as one would reasonably expect
> from a desktop/laptop - and still not work on other form-factors.
>
> So wearables (incl watches) and handhelds, and chromebooks are likely to
> keep using unix-based systems, usually specifically gnu&linux.
>
>
> This bug was first raised when the word "desktop" covered all the
> form-factors that could be used in small-business and by families or other
> private usage.  Nowadays the term "desktop", even if expanded to include
> laptops, only represents under 20% of that market.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> On 13 December 2016 at 14:40, Luca Ciavatta <luca.ciavatta@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > I confirm this bug.
> > I visited some local PC stores (middle-sized city in Italy) and I
> > attempted to buy a machine without any proprietary software.
> >
> > All the computers on sale had proprietary software.
> >
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> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
> >
> > Title:
> >   Microsoft has a majority market share
> >
> > Status in Clubdistro:
> >   Confirmed
> > Status in Computer Science Ubuntu:
> >   Confirmed
> > Status in LibreOffice:
> >   New
> > Status in dylan.NET.Reflection:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in dylan.NET:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in EasyPeasy Overview:
> >   Confirmed
> > Status in Ichthux:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in JAK LINUX:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in LibreOffice:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in Skylinux:
> >   New
> > Status in Linux Mint:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in The Linux OS Project:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in Neobot:
> >   New
> > Status in Novabot:
> >   New
> > Status in OpenOffice:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in Tabuntu:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in Tivion:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in Tv-Player:
> >   Invalid
> > Status in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in Wine:
> >   Unknown
> > Status in Ubuntu:
> >   Fix Released
> > Status in Arch Linux:
> >   Confirmed
> > Status in Baltix:
> >   Confirmed
> > Status in Debian:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in Fedora:
> >   Confirmed
> > Status in Fluxbuntu:
> >   Confirmed
> > Status in openSUSE:
> >   In Progress
> > Status in Tilix:
> >   New
> >
> > Bug description:
> >   See Mark's closure comment here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/
> > ubuntu/+bug/1/comments/1834
> >   ------
> >
> >   Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC
> >   marketplace. This is a bug which Ubuntu and other projects are meant
> >   to fix. As the philosophy of the Ubuntu Project states, "Our work is
> >   driven by a belief that software should be free and accessible to
> >   all."
> >
> >   "Ubuntu software is free. Always was, always will be. Free software
> > gives everyone the freedom to use it however they want and share with
> > whoever they like. This freedom has huge benefits. At one end of the
> > spectrum it enables the Ubuntu community to grow and share its collective
> > experience and expertise to continually improve all things Ubuntu. At the
> > other, we are able to give access to essential software for those who
> > couldn’t otherwise afford it – an advantage that’s keenly felt by
> > individuals and organisations all over the world."
> >        * http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy
> >
> >   Non-free software leaves users at the mercy of the software owner and
> >   concentrates control over the technology which powers our society into
> >   the hands of a few. Additionally, proprietary software stifles
> >   innovation, maintains artificial scarcities, and enables malicious
> >   anti-features such as DRM, surveillance, and other monopolistic
> >   practices.
> >
> >   This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
> >
> >   Steps to repeat:
> >
> >       1. Visit a local PC store.
> >       2. Attempt to buy a machine without any proprietary software.
> >
> >   What happens:
> >
> >   Almost always, a majority of PCs for sale have Microsoft Windows pre-
> >   installed. In the rare cases that they come with a GNU/Linux operating
> >   system or no operating system at all, the drivers and BIOS may be
> >   proprietary.
> >
> >   What should happen:
> >
> >   A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software.
> >
> >        * http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
> >        * http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
> >        * http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd
> >
> > To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscriptions
> >
>
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> Title:
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Title:
  Microsoft has a majority market share

Status in Clubdistro:
  Confirmed
Status in Computer Science Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in LibreOffice:
  New
Status in dylan.NET.Reflection:
  Invalid
Status in dylan.NET:
  Invalid
Status in EasyPeasy Overview:
  Confirmed
Status in Ichthux:
  Invalid
Status in JAK LINUX:
  Invalid
Status in LibreOffice:
  In Progress
Status in Skylinux:
  New
Status in Linux Mint:
  In Progress
Status in The Linux OS Project:
  In Progress
Status in Neobot:
  New
Status in Novabot:
  New
Status in OpenOffice:
  In Progress
Status in Tabuntu:
  Invalid
Status in Tivion:
  Invalid
Status in Tv-Player:
  Invalid
Status in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team:
  In Progress
Status in Wine:
  Unknown
Status in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in Arch Linux:
  Confirmed
Status in Baltix:
  Confirmed
Status in Debian:
  In Progress
Status in Fedora:
  Confirmed
Status in Fluxbuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in openSUSE:
  In Progress
Status in Tilix:
  New

Bug description:
  See Mark's closure comment here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1/comments/1834
  ------

  Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC
  marketplace. This is a bug which Ubuntu and other projects are meant
  to fix. As the philosophy of the Ubuntu Project states, "Our work is
  driven by a belief that software should be free and accessible to
  all."

  "Ubuntu software is free. Always was, always will be. Free software gives everyone the freedom to use it however they want and share with whoever they like. This freedom has huge benefits. At one end of the spectrum it enables the Ubuntu community to grow and share its collective experience and expertise to continually improve all things Ubuntu. At the other, we are able to give access to essential software for those who couldn’t otherwise afford it – an advantage that’s keenly felt by individuals and organisations all over the world."
       * http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy

  Non-free software leaves users at the mercy of the software owner and
  concentrates control over the technology which powers our society into
  the hands of a few. Additionally, proprietary software stifles
  innovation, maintains artificial scarcities, and enables malicious
  anti-features such as DRM, surveillance, and other monopolistic
  practices.

  This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

  Steps to repeat:

      1. Visit a local PC store.
      2. Attempt to buy a machine without any proprietary software.

  What happens:

  Almost always, a majority of PCs for sale have Microsoft Windows pre-
  installed. In the rare cases that they come with a GNU/Linux operating
  system or no operating system at all, the drivers and BIOS may be
  proprietary.

  What should happen:

  A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software.

       * http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
       * http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
       * http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd

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