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[Sebastien Bacher <seb128@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> If you really can't understand what I and a few others have said here
about newbies having difficulties with workspaces (and why we have to
remove them for those newbies)

We know that workspaces are an issue and that's being working, you
having to install ccsm to remove them though is neither a proper
solution nor a scalable one that's all I'm saying. In practice it means
99% of users don't have "the chance" to have a power user doing that
tweak for them and such will run into the workspace issues and not into
that specific bug. Now fixing the workspace issue is an High priority
bug yes, we aim at properly fixing the issue not at properly giving
power users a way to workaround poor design for 1% of users that can be
reach this way

> Instead of seeing this issue for what it is, a very clear and obvious
bug (and one, I'd point out, that 36 people and counting went out of
their way to find on the internet in an effort to fix it on their
machines), you continue to push this as something that, if experienced,
is the fault of the end-user for being naive enough to customize their
installation. This isn't a niche case of a user enabling just the right
combination of esoteric plugins and complaing that things break. On the
contrary, this is a bug that any user trying to replicate their workflow
from Windows or OS X will find and that reflects poorly on the operating
system.

shrug, do you guys realize that nobody claimed that:
- the bug is not valid
- users who tweak are wrong
- the bug will not be fixed

?

you guys just are making all that ranting just for a freaking bug
tracker *setting*? That bug will likely be addressed in the next SRU
despite being tagged as *Lowl*, you realize that?

I'm not making the guidelines:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance

"Low:
...
Bugs that have easy work-arounds
Bugs that affect unusual end-user configurations..."

that bug has an easy workaround and that bug affects "unusual end-user
configurations" ... you can argue over that but if you were looking at
stats, Ubuntu has million and users and it's likely that the vast
majority of those just get confused by workspaces and don't have a
friend technical enough to reduce their number of workspace to 1.


> While this is not a bug with Unity proper, your attitude brings to mind Bug #882274. This feature worked in the past, and now it's broken. I kindly suggest that Instead of telling all these users, "Yeah, we'll fix it... but you're wrong for having the bug so we'll take our sweet time," try to be understanding and less cynical. People didn't come here to start an argument with you, they came to fix a problem. Try not to forget that.

Shrug, again nobody said "you're wrong for having the bug so we'll take
our sweet time", but I will tell you what:

- there are 1110 open bugs against compiz in Ubuntu
- those include issues which lead a part of the userbase to not be able to use compiz: segfaults, slowness, broken multiscreen handling, graphical corruptions, etc
- there are less than 3 people working on compiz at the moment
- there are other "regressions" and hot bugs

What you guys are ranting about is that those nice people who put lot of
efforts, often spending nights and weekends fixing and improving the
software you use *for free* are not still doing enough to your tast and
not taking your pet bug as world stopper issue. You just have a got at
them for trying to prioritize work over that list of over a thousand of
issues? How is that fair? The situation can be frustrating yes, but stop
to think a bit about it and see how you would feel like if you were on
the "receiving" end of that ranting, how you would feel like if you
spend countless hours fixing issue to get in return users coming and
calling you bad names because you didn't manage to fix more that than?

Enough ranting for today, we will get to this issue, thanks for
understanding why things are not perfect

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  When number of workspaces is set to 1, the Spread no longer works

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