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[Tim <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 30/10/15 18:37, Harry wrote:
> Tim, you wrote:
> "So basically unless I am missing something, there is nothing to fix here?"
>
> Maybe so,
> I only wrote comments here because there is a clear difference between these two:
> 1) gnome desktop3_3.18.0-0ubuntu1~wily2 (Gnome3 Staging PPA)
> 2) gnome-desktop3_3.18.1-1ubuntu1 (xenial-proposed-new)
>
> I cannot install nro 2 above, because that would force to remove libgnome-dektop-3-10.
> But I have installed nro 1 above with no issues.
Right, but you are not meant to install gnome-desktop3_3.18.1-1ubuntu1 just yet, if you want 3.18.1 use the ~xenial1 ppa package.
>
> So, if nro 2 would be replaced with nro 1 in xenial proposed, it would be installable.
> Then eog and mutter could be easily built against libgnome-desktop-3-12.
> After this libgnome-desktop-3-10 could be removed.
As soon as gnome-desktop is released from the new queue, we will upload rebuilds of all the reverse-depends, besides at that point 3-10 will
disappear from the archives (if you have proposed enabled) and you will only be left with the installed copy. Not to mention you would likely
hit the debian bug, since gdm is at 3.16 in the archives and still linked to 3-10. The reason we don't do that on the ppa, is so we can avoid
doing a full transition, since some of the reverse-depends only use things like the thumbnailer and nothing else, we also have a bit more
control there ensuring everthing core to gnome-desktop lands in about an hour or so.
>
> To me, having nro 2 in xenial-proposed with no possibiliites to install it and eog + mutter with no possibiliites to build against libgnome-desktop-3-12 (because it is not installable) is a locked-in situation.
> Nothing to fix? Really?
Again this is exactly how xenial-proposed is supposed to work, so we can do transitions without affecting users. If you insist on using
-proposed, then you should just wait until the transition is complete when things fall apart, in most cases that shouldnt be more than a day or two.

Now go read the page I linked earlier, and I quote from that:
"One important difference that those familiar with the Debian process should be aware of is that -proposed is a *partial suite*: that is, it
only contains packages that have not yet migrated, and must be used on top of the release pocket. This can cause some confusion where removals
are concerned. Furthermore, the Ubuntu process has no arbitrary delays and no consideration of release-critical bugs, so there is very little
benefit to users in using -proposed and such use is strongly discouraged."

>

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Title:
  Update to 3.18.1

Status in gnome-desktop3 package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Committed

Bug description:
  Please merge 3.18.1 from debian 
  Debdiff attached

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