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[Bug 1347305] Re: Address fields are grey when composing messages


What's pissing me off about this? Is how you all lack souls, and somehow
I've got to do the obvious goddamn complaining/fighting/etc that none of
you have even seemed to want to bother with. Tell mozilla to fuck
itself, switch to something else. Why do I have to be an asshole to
stand up for your shit? If we all did, mozilla would have some working
"contact us" links and actually give an option to go back to the old way
if we didn't like the new crap. God forbid they think of the user. *But
they really would if we went and burned down their offices all over the
world*. Or even if enough of us wrote them shitty emails. Harder, I
know, with bad input fields -- but hey, try. *TRY*. I dare you.

Suffice they couldn't be contacted directly -- you have to know where you're contacting/the place nearest me wasn't a support site -- I dunno where they do their support. You have to end up studying the company layout to send in a damn complaint? Fuck that. And so the mozillaspace crap gets the mail -- bet they don't even read them. And that seems the goal lately, no big web company takes email -- hell, read my letter to them/have fun. Soulless fucks, ANY of you could have bitched/switched/*anything*.  The USER is what makes the product have meaning. To forget the user is folly -- unless the user's too stupid to remind anyone...

Didn't I write last week about you fucking up firefox? And the fucking
stupidity of a "contact us" page that then puts us a selector for WHERE
we want to write? If Mozilla wasn't a WEB company being contact on the
WEB I might give a shit where the complaint department was located. You
don't tell us. But you *do* expect us to pick where that is. ork there,
one wouldprobably know -- How the fuck are we supposed to know?

I've only recently noticed -- has it been half a year -- what the fuck
happened to the form-inputs for email in thunderbird? They look
faded/greyed out/*don't follow goddamn windows standards*. And while
I've just read several pages of folk bitching about it, CSS fixes, etc
-- I don't wanna go get CSS fixes. And hope they work. And test, and
check, and tweak, and... *fuck that*. I wanted my email with working
textinput boxes. That didn't look like they were just lined paper
because *you* decided you don't like textboxes (advice: don't use
computers, we'd prefer this even). What pisses me off about these
support pages? I've yet to see ONE person hit the real problem...


Want some examples about how that is bad? Let's see if I can think of a

They wanted what they loved, not other shit from the people that made
what they loved.

STAR WARS -- Pick a change on that one, lucas has been worse than you'll
ever be. But Han Solo is a "good guy" so he can't shoot first? He was a
smuggler, a criminal, idiots thinking bad guys wear black and good guys
wear white pissed in that movie. Those movies -- who's ultimate moral
seems to be that you can be a tyranical asshole babykiller most of your
life and then redeem yourself in the last seconds and end up being the
only one in the afterlife who's young and vibrant looking. More
fun/better looks for-forever? Not a bad deal, overall...

GOOGLE and YOU -- *Quit fucking changing things without an option*. (As
a mere single example out of so many) Wanna ad shitty red and black to
the blue and white google interface? Great, give us *styles* to pick
from -- some might want pink and lavender, make "faggot google" a
dropdown option/let us *all* have what we want. If I wasn't happy with
what was already there I'd have gone to Bing before.

I know how to work about:config -- even in thunderbird. So why isn't
there some boolean to toggle to turn this bullshit off? Never did find
it. Nobody's discussing it. Nobody even seems to question why you made a
major look/feel/user-interface-affecting change without discussing it
with the users or letting them have an option to turn it off.

*Go look at the web* -- mozilla, it *was your web* -- for the number of
stupid goddamn "classic theme" type addons out there. People do NOT want
this bullshit you're doing. And you'd even know this if you gave a fuck
-- *great* rule of thumb for any company -- click their "contact us"
link. See where it goes. If a web company's sending you to a list to
pick *where* you want to talk to them? They don't seem that web
oriented. Should be a goddamn form distribution setup is in place, write
about one type of thing and it goes to the office that handles that.
Instead I'm stuck writing "mozillaspaces" as there's nothing else
obvious to click. But hey, that beats google, craig's list, etc, they
won't even read your shit *at all*. Which, no, let's be honest, nobody's
gonna read this at all either. But that's the point -- the reason --
*fuck you guys*. Outlook was feeling a lil' more cutting-edge when I
used it at work *and* the address input boxes didn't piss me off. And
that was more around a year ago/before you fucked up your client -- to
copy them? -- I dunno. Work used old crap anyway. But I'm now pissed at
your product, *and you*, *AGAIN*, for complicating my life with stupid
bullshit. A little check box of "show input boxes" was all I needed to
not look at that thing and want to growl EVERY FUCKING TIME I send
outgoing mail. Since I can't enjoy your client? I 'll go find a
different one to enjoy.

And for the record? I couldn't understand it when I was a kid -- New
coke *was* better. Only I never thought it possible they were quitting
the old coke/that point hit me only once explained (I was 5? Somethin').
Han Shot first, and should have, I would have were I in his shoes.
Everyone's either old or young in the afterlife, really it should
probably be "by choice" but no old fart gets so comfortable with being
an old fart that they'd rather be running around bent over a walking
stick with an impotent dick instead of being young and vibrant. Even if
you have to look like that dopey prequel fuck. Google's white and blue?
Part of it was that "simplicity is amazing" and it was so simple and so
useful. Red and black should be added -- for knifewounds and bleeding as
they cut their own throat. An adorable search engine decided to be
everything, change/grow/absorb, and apparently still hasn't bothered to
buy a company with a working "contact us" link so we can tell them about
how absolute power corrupts. Firefox? I was here damn near from day one.
Thunderbird? Lil' later/not long after. In both cases, if my computer
dies, I know I'm totally fucked -- there's so many goddamn theme-
restoration tweaks, addons, about:config hack entries, etc, put into my
shit that I will *NEVER* possibly get the same setup if I have to start
over. Thunderbird alone's mentioned on upgrade before that it's changed
several things, do I wanna alter/not, 3-4 notions that I wasn't even
really sure what they were. I kept my old stuff, what worked worked. But
the new crap out of the box? Might be superior. Didn't get to try both.
Sure as hell won't like reinstalling/not having what I thought I was
installing. So I'm pondering other browsers/email clients -- For a while
mozilla was upgrading slowly -- good, their shit worked/it wasn't needed
-- then they started getting flack for lack of updates -- we got a
weekly patch to change the version number and nothing else as far as I
could tell, most times. Which started making it really fucking naggy
nagware. And maybe folk picked up on that too -- because now we can't
have text input boxes for (get this) *text input*. Or the option to
change back off really fucking stupid changes. Follow some goddamn
programming standards you *ASSHOLES*. It was IE 4 not following HTML
standards that got me on Netscape Communicator, followed by Firefox.
You're fucking shit up with no config option, and my complain is that
text input can't be done via proper text input? That if I ever did try
to reinstall all these constant un-change changes I've had to add I'd
probably never remember them all? The *obvious* result is that I'm not
gonna goddamn try. Next reinstall will be Outlook. It's not like my
shit's not on Gmail/I'll lose nothing anyway. Except the headache of
dealing with your ass.

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  Address fields are grey when composing messages

Status in Mozilla Thunderbird Mail and News:
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Status in thunderbird package in Ubuntu:

Bug description:
  When composing a message, any address field that does not have the
  cursor is shown as grey. While this is at first only a cosmetic
  glitch, it is also serious usability issue: Usually any field that can
  be edited is white and text that can't be edited is simply drawn grey.
  Now it looks like Thunderbird does not allow editing of the recipient
  addresses. Only when you try it regardless you discover that it is
  still editible.

  I attached a screenshot showing a stuffed up composer window.

  This bug appeared with the latest update of Thunderbird that was
  installed today.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04
  Package: thunderbird 1:31.0+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-30.55-generic
  Uname: Linux 3.13.0-30-generic x86_64
  AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False
  ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3.2
  Architecture: amd64
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  kaymes     2516 F.... pulseaudio
  BuildID: 20140721092545
  Channel: Unavailable
  CurrentDesktop: Unity
  Date: Wed Jul 23 10:37:17 2014
  ExecutablePath: /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird
  ForcedLayersAccel: False
   # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
   auto lo
   iface lo inet loopback
   Lightning - {e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}
   English (GB) Language Pack - langpack-en-GB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
   Deutsch (DE) Language Pack - langpack-de@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
   Thunderbird (default) - {972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2014-07-02 (20 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" - Release amd64 (20140417)
   default via dev eth0  proto static dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src  metric 1
   eth0      no wireless extensions.
   lo        no wireless extensions.
  LocalLibraries: /home/kaymes/.thunderbird/dymzcbig.default/extensions/{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}/components/Linux_x86_64-gcc3/libcalbasecomps.so
  Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=31.0/20140721092545 (In use)
   rhythmbox-mozilla 3.0.2-0ubuntu2
   totem-mozilla     3.10.1-1ubuntu4
  RunningIncompatibleAddons: True
  SourcePackage: thunderbird
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
   Jul 23 08:56:13 uqbox kernel: [427030.548782] [drm] Setting output timings on SDVOB failed
   Jul 23 09:37:38 uqbox kernel: [429515.541016] [drm] Setting output timings on SDVOB failed
   Jul 23 10:06:02 uqbox kernel: [431219.445267] [drm] Setting output timings on SDVOB failed
   Jul 23 10:07:12 uqbox kernel: [431289.957320] [drm] Setting output timings on SDVOB failed
   Jul 23 10:23:06 uqbox kernel: [432243.381132] MATLAB[25882]: segfault at 8 ip 00007f2f4507bcfe sp 00007f2f06cc5320 error 4
  dmi.bios.date: 10/27/2011
  dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.bios.version: A13
  dmi.board.name: 0J468K
  dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.board.version: A00
  dmi.chassis.type: 3
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA13:bd10/27/2011:svnDellInc.:pnOptiPlex960:pvr:rvnDellInc.:rn0J468K:rvrA00:cvnDellInc.:ct3:cvr:
  dmi.product.name: OptiPlex 960
  dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc.

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