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[Bug 357864]
(In reply to Josiah Bruner [:JosiahOne] (needinfo > CC) from comment #109)
> Created attachment 8544150
> Example sketch.
I'm not sure if the sketch UI will work out well as presented; imo it
might easily create confusion and wrong assumptions about this feature.
>From selector in compose UI of current release has simultaneous double function:
Select a predefined sender identity as a set consisting of
a) From-field of sent msg: John Doe <john(at)gmail.com>
b) SMTP-Server & login for sending: smtp.gmail.com, port: 465, SSL/TLS, normal password, username: john(at)gmail.com
If I understand this bug correctly, for a given(!) identity selected by user from the dropdown, we want to allow editing a) (From-field) only, but we still rely on getting b) SMTP-Server from the original identity.
"Enter a custom address...", more so at the bottom(!) of the dropdown
list, wrongly suggests that user could create a new address/identity at
the same level as the other identities in the list, which is not the
case. Instead, the UI should reflect that we only allow window-dressing
of the From-field text value within a predefined identity (which btw
will not work for many commonly used mail servers, so we also need to
think in terms of ux-error-prevention!).
I agree with Josiah's comment 102 (supported by Ben's comment 107):
(In reply to Josiah Bruner [:JosiahOne] (needinfo > CC) from comment #102)
> Comment on attachment 8507858
> 87987.png
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> I think what we should do is ... show the drop down if they
> click anywhere other than an edit button. The edit button could go where the
> dropdown icon is now for example.
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Tentative UI/UX proposal:
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1) non-hover, non-focus:
[John <john(at)gmail.com> v]
- hide edit icon/button
- single-left-click from-selector anywhere opens dropdown (big click target for default workflow of picking predefined identity from list, as proposed by Josiah/Ben)
- double-click anywhere -> edit sender (double click does nothing useful otherwise, so it's free).
2) hover, focus:
[John <john(at)gmail.com> [/] v]
- only when hovered or focused, show a small "Edit" icon [/] (e.g. pen)
- imo per ux-natural-mapping, the correct position for this icon, as hinted by Josiah, is *inside* the dropdown (correctly implying you can edit the inner value based on prior choice in dropdown).
- clicking the "Edit" icon allows editing of From field value, either dialogue (allowing explanation of dangers involved for unsuspecting users), or inline (how do we handle ux-error-prevention then?)
3) popup (without editing):
[John <john(at)gmail.com> [/] v]
|John private <john.private(at)foo.bar> |
|John tertiary <john.tertiary(at)asdf.com> |
+------------------------------------------------------+
- if user hasn't edited anything, clicking anywhere on from-selector outside "Edit" icon will open the normal and unmodified popup
- imo we should *not* advertise this feature more by offering a dedicated action row inside the dropdown, ux-error-prevention for default users: many smtp servers will reject altered from-fields, especially when you change the email address
- consider if the entire feature should be preffed-off by default, again ux-error-prevention
4) popup (with/after editing):
[Johnny Edited <john(at)fakemail.com> [/] v]
|*John <john(at)gmail.com> |
|John private <john.private(at)foo.bar> |
|John tertiary <john.tertiary(at)asdf.com> |
+------------------------------------------------------+
- after manual editing, we need to offer an easy way of reverting to the
original identity whose from-sender was edited: offer as first entry in
the dropdown, with some indication (icon, bold, etc.) that this the
currently used identity (only with edited from).
5) Context menu
+--------------------+
|Edit this sender |
|Copy |
|Paste |
+--------------------+
- optionally for this bug, but recommended, implement a simple context menu on the from-selector
- Edit this sender -> edit sender (dialog/inline)
- Copy: Copy the current value of sender, either original "John <john(at)gmail.com>" or edited "Johnny Edited <john(at)fakemail.com>"
- Paste: Paste clipboard text to become the new edited value of sender
- Copy and Paste might need better strings to indicate what they do
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/357864
Title:
Editing the "From" field for the current email only (as text, not
dropdown)
Status in Mozilla Thunderbird Mail and News:
Confirmed
Status in thunderbird package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Bug description:
Binary package hint: thunderbird
I want to quite often use a particular email address (e.g. for writing
to a mailing list), where I do not have added the email address to the
account settings yet.
However, Thunderbird does not allow to edit the From field, but only
provides the configured email addresses in a dropdown.
It would be nice, if you could also edit the From field in a text
input.
KMail provides this, for example, and there appear to be some
extensions for it, but I'd like to avoid using an addon for this, but
rather think it's a nice feature to have by default.
I could imagine, that the last entry in the dropdown would say
"Edit..." or "Custom..." and change the dropdown into a text field.
ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.04
NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
Package: mozilla-thunderbird 2.0.0.21+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
PackageArchitecture: all
ProcEnviron:
PATH=(custom, user)
LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: thunderbird
Uname: Linux 2.6.28-11-generic i686
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