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(In reply to Tony Pursell from comment #12)

> Are you saying that you get LO's Open/Save dialogues even when the option in
> Tools > Options > LibreOffice > General is not ticked (which is the default
> setting)?

Not sure what option you are referring to.  Tools-> Options-> LO->
General is a menu, not an option.  And under that there is nothing
related to the open/save dialog.  There is nothing under Tools->
Options-> Load/Save either.  (Vanilla Linux LO 4.3 without KDE/Gnome
integration loaded)

> I only have experience of Ubuntu Linux and Windows where I always use the
> system dialogues.

Exactly.  That is what 99+% of users will see- KDE or Gnome dialogs.
This bug report is about the generic file manager that is built into LO
for when KDE or Gnome (or compatible) is not being used.  WE are a thin
client environment and use IceWM.

> When I came to try OpenOffice.org's Open/Save dialogues back in 2010 they
> were much more rudimentary and, as far as I can remember, allowed
> *immediate* deletion of a file on right click.

Yes, that is the generic one this bug references and what we at work are
still using (by choice)

> I considered this highly dangerous as the normal file deletion routines put
> a deleted file into Trash/Rubbish Bin/Recycle Bin and I could see users
> unwittingly deleting
> files with no way of recovering them, to the detriment of OpenOffice.org's
> (and now LO's) reputation.

There are lots of Linux programs for which delete means delete
(including the command line), although they are not as common as in the
past.  This is not crazy behavior.  File managers that support a trash
concept should label that function "trash" or "recycle" or something...
not "delete" (but that is a whole other conversation).

I agree that new or novice users might not understand that delete means delete, which is why I proposed instead of completely removing a very useful feature, to rename it to sound more dangerous, like "Permanently Delete" or to add a warning, or to add an OPTION to turn it off (and perhaps even make the default for that option be off).  Of course most of these novice users will never see or use the built-in file dialog, anyway)
 
> Now that there is a 'Confirm Delete' dialogue,

Perhaps on the KDE or Gnome or other dialog that was added, but it
wasn't added on the generic/built-in LO dialog.  Had they done that
instead of completely removing delete, I would have been far less upset.

> I would agree with you that
> the Delete on right click should have been retained, although I would like
> the default action in the 'Confirm Delete' dialogue to be 'Dont Delete'.

I could even go for that too.  Anything is better than just removing it
completely.

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/525440

Title:
  [Upstream] LibreOffice Load/Save dialogue boxes delete files but dont
  use Trash

Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite:
  Fix Released
Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
  Unknown
Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in openoffice.org package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  Binary package hint: openoffice.org

  If, in Tools > Options...> OpenOffice.org > General, you have 'Use
  OpenOffice.org dialogue boxes' checked, you get dialogue boxes that
  allow you to right click and Delete.  Files deleted like this do not
  go to the Deleted Items folder.  This is dangerous because users can
  assume the behaviour is the same as in Nautilus.

  See
  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+question/101821

  ProblemType: Bug
  Architecture: i386
  Date: Sun Feb 21 19:26:09 2010
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
  Package: openoffice.org-core 1:3.1.1-5ubuntu1 [modified: var/lib/openoffice/basis3.1/program/services.rdb]
  ProcEnviron:
   LANGUAGE=en_GB
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-19.56-generic
  SourcePackage: openoffice.org
  Uname: Linux 2.6.31-19-generic i686
  --- 
  Architecture: i386
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release i386 (20100429)
  Package: openoffice.org-core 1:3.2.0-7ubuntu4.1
  PackageArchitecture: i386
  ProcEnviron:
   LANG=en_GB.utf8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-22.36-generic-pae 2.6.32.11+drm33.2
  Tags: lucid
  Uname: Linux 2.6.32-22-generic-pae i686
  UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom dialout fax fuse lpadmin netdev plugdev sambashare video

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