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[Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Yusuph

Thanks for this update.  This is interesting to me as I think it is my first
sighting of another implementation of dxf format in the wild!  That's
important to know if we start tweaking with the format.

I haven't looked at care2x for a long time.  Last I looked it was based on
PHP (v4).  There was still some angst about adopting the right framework for
move to PHP5.  I guess that is all resolved now.  Or maybe they decided to
stary put with php4.  Is your php implementation of dxf available anywhere?
I'd like to take a look.

On the question of organisation hierarchy, I've had this discussion with a
few people and maybe your experience will confirm.  It is only DHIS which
really needs to have a knowledge of the tree.  For a hospital or facility
running care2x or openmrs it presumably doesn't matter.  What matters is
that it has an identifier which is recognizable by DHIS.  Am I right in
thinking this?

I'm interested in your translation of icd10 codes to dataelements.  Am I
right in thinking that for each named ic10 code you have (potentially) a
dhis dataelement with the same name?  Or you have a mapping between named
icd10 codes and named dhis data elements?  I'm wondering if there might be
something general we can extract from this, like a standardized ICD10
dataelement mapping for other contexts.  Possibly not.  But what actual data
have you imported?  I know that care2x has a lot of tables ranging from
canteen to patient record.  I guess if you are focussed on ICD10 it is
derived from patient record.  So you have aggregated monthly, weekly or what
have you within care2x and then exported to DXF?

Most importantly, why have you done this?  I am looking for proven use cases
where dhis is linked to another system and there is a clear and tangible
beneficial outcome.

Sorry for all the questions.

Regards
Bob

2009/8/6 Yusuph Kassim <yusuph28@xxxxxxxxxxx>

>
>
> Hi,
> Just to high light the work done in integrating the DHIS and care2x which
> also is the same way used in integrating with the other afya pro system is
> to produce an xml file with dfx format for that particular system, the idea
> is that DHIS mainly finds the dataelement, the organization unit, the period
> and the values (which references the later) as the main fields, the good
> thing about it, if you have the names of the organization unit and the name
> of dataelements and the date format exactly as in DHIS then the import is
> easy, so what we actully did, is to map the names of the ICD10 in care2x and
> the names of data element in DHIS and everything was automatic.
>
> hope this highlights what we did.
>
> NB. the organizationunitrelationship (the parent and the child mainly
> depends if you are importing data for the first time, but if you have all
> the names of facility in your system, the hierachy will sort itself out)
>
> cheers
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:06:39 +0200
> > Subject: Re: OpenMRS integration
> > From: jornbraa@xxxxxxxxx
> > To: anthony_muyepa@xxxxxxxxxxx; muyepaa@xxxxxxxxx; bobjolliffe@xxxxxxxxx;
> dhis2-devs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; juma.lungo@xxxxxxxxxxxx;
> johnlewis.hisp@xxxxxxxxx; larshelge@xxxxxxxxx; sundeep.sahay@xxxxxxxxx;
> yusuphk@xxxxxxxxx; yusuph28@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >
> > Bob and all,
> > think broader than openmrs. In tanzania we have also care2x and
> > another hospital sw, which will also come to malawi, where baobab,
> > which uses openmrs data structure, is a priority.
> >
> > Bob, include tz and mw in your mandate for dhis integration. We want
> > generic approach to mapping and etl w dhis as destination. Note that
> > baobab should be thight as openmrs as they are large national project
> > w whom we working. Openmrs is also in mw, so same approach for both.
> >
> > Discuss w yusuph how they do care2x in tz.
> >
> > Jorn, on mobile
> >
> > On 8/5/09, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Thanks Lars. I will take responsibility for putting together and
> > > implementing a plan of action for this. This will have to include
> > > absorbing
> > > the learning from the various integration efforts which have happened -
> > > there is the work Abyot has done, there is work Phumzile and others
> have
> > > done on the OpenMRS side, there is an existing (untouched for two
> years)
> > > DHIS "connector" module for openmrs and there is the most recent effort
> > > from
> > > Murod. Alongside there have been developments in the availability of
> xml
> > > interchange standards which can impact positively or negatively on the
> > > work.
> > >
> > >
> > > Also there are opportunities to interoperate with other software (such
> as
> > > iHRIS HR package and no doubt others in the future) so it is important
> to
> > > not treat each as a new design program, but rather expose and document
> a
> > > standard process for getting data in and out of DHIS2.
> > >
> > > The first step will be to identify the right forum for communication
> with
> > > the relevant people from across projects. I'm interested in people's
> > > thoughts on this.
> > >
> > > Regards for now
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > 2009/8/5 Lars Helge Øverland <larshelge@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> after some discussions with Jørn we have decided that Bob will be
> > >> responsible for the OpenMRS - DHIS 2 integration process. This means
> > >> that he will come up with a design and plan of action, and suggest who
> > >> will be developing on the various components.
> > >>
> > >> I admit that this could have been communicated better and earlier. I
> > >> will from now on take more responsibility on coordination of tasks and
> > >> communication of what we agree on.
> > >>
> > >> More info from Bob later.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> cheers
> > >>
> > >> Lars
> > >>
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