dhis2-devs team mailing list archive

[Ola Hodne Titlestad <olatitle@xxxxxxxxx>]

2009/10/30 Lars Helge Øverland <larshelge@xxxxxxxxx>

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> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Jason Pickering <
> jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> The rest of the content of this mail can be ignored, but anyway, my
>> feelings on this.
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>> <flame>
>> We MUST simplify the number of sites. I know of the following that are
>> related to DHIS
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>> I think there are probably others. I realize that some of these sites
>> serve different purposes to different groups, but IMHO, DHIS is a
>> great product that suffers from really poor marketing. Having
>> information spread across all these different sites spreads thin
>> resources and creates confusion among people trying to access
>> information on DHIS. We, as a community, need to consolidate all of
>> this information into a single portal at the least, and a single site
>> at best.
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>> I honestly think, if there is anyway, to create a single site, that
>> has documentation, demos, links to the source code, a wiki for more
>> informal documentation, a forum, etc...this would be the way to go. I
>> personally favour dhis2.org because it sounds less commercial than
>> dhis2.com. Most people have no idea what HISP is (I have been trying
>> to figure out for years but still have not a very good grip on it
>> either!) and it really does not matter for those using the prodcuct
>> DHIS2 or 1.4, born out of HISP.
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>> I
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>> I think if the university can host the site, this would be the best
>> way to ensure sustainability. It is just a DNS record. After all the
>> investment the university has put into the product, they should be
>> able to host a DNS record after all.
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>> </flame>
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>> OK, I am done. Lets get a single site with all the information in one
>> place.
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>> Regards,
>> jason
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> Hi, we definitely need to consolidate the info. But in fact this is what we
> are working on right now, let me explain a little. The idea is this: one
> site for the software / product (dhis2.org), one collaboration platform
> (launchpad) and one site for the network (hisp).
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> 2) dhis2.org
> 3) dhis2.com
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> The dhis2 site will contain what you mention; downloads, docs, developer
> page, functionality info, link to demo etc. Bob questioned the use of the
> .com domain which we took into consideration and changed to .org. From now
> on we will promote the .org domain. Still I think it makes sense to keep the
> .com domain as well, if someone hears of dhis2 and types in dhis2.com in
> his browser something should be there. I have sent a request to AN Hosting
> support to redirect the dhis2.com to dhis2.org, rather than having it as a
> "parked" domain. Also, we will move the actual downloadable files to this
> server.
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> 9) launchpad.net
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> Launchpad, as you know, provides version control, issue management, bug
> tracking. This in in fact not overlapping with the dhis2.org except for
> the quick intro on the front page.
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> 1) hisp.info
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> The new HISP site will provide information on the HISP network, such as
> which countries we are in, who are working for us, our vision, our
> strategy/philosophy and so on. This will be hosted on the web hotel of the
> University of Oslo to ensure sustainability and greater visibility. Which
> URL to use is still up to discussion, hisp.org would be ideal but is taken
> by HISP SA. Anyway, users of DHIS 2 would not have to take this site into
> account.
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Hi,

Thanks for bringing up this discussion Jason and for letting us in on your
strategy Lars, here are my comments:

Lars, I think you simplify the notion of DHIS users... I think they are
definitely part of the network and should be aware of what it is, what can
be gained from the network, and how to contribute to it.

The hisp.info domain is now widely recognised as a site about HISP so don't
see why we should move away from that.

Important to discuss though, but perhaps not on an open developer list is
"what is the HISP network?","where is the center, is Oslo it? and do we need
a center?", what about the other sites like hisp.org for SA and their
related projects (all over Africa), the hispindia.org site and Vietnam's
site, and probably more local HISP sites as well. That is also part of the
network. That is a more interesting discussion I think.

That said, I totally agree with Jason on the need to be able to market HISP
as a whole much better, as right now it is difficult to sense the "total
strength" of the HISP network or e.g. the spread of DHIS usage around the
world, as it more of an underground network that pops up on so many
different sites and occasions, which can also be a strength....

I think HISP's web presence need to be part of the planned strategic
discussions in Oslo next month.



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> 4) phitoolkit.org
> 5) openhealthconsortium.org
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> These sites are set up by WHO, not HISP, and I cannot account for them, but
> DHIS 2 user would not have to use them.
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This of course becomes a bit more complicated the day DHIS 2 is also branded
under a different name (tentative name is OpenHealthMapper) as a WHO
tool.....  We definetely do not want to duplicate all information on the
software.


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> 6) http://208.76.222.114
> 7) hispkerala.org
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> Will not be used anymore.
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> 8) dhismobile.info
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> I have plans to work with Saptarshi/Ime to make the work they have done on
> the mobile application more visible in the HISP network and get this info
> onto dhis2.org.
>
> That's great news. The world really needs to know more about all the good
stuff happening in HISP on this front.


Ola
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