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[Ola Hodne Titlestad <olatitle@xxxxxxxxx>]

2009/10/30 Ola Hodne Titlestad <olatitle@xxxxxxxxx>

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> 2009/10/30 Lars Helge Øverland <larshelge@xxxxxxxxx>
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>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Jason Pickering <
>> jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>> The rest of the content of this mail can be ignored, but anyway, my
>>> feelings on this.
>>>
>>> <flame>
>>> We MUST simplify the number of sites. I know of the following that are
>>> related to DHIS
>>>
>>> I think there are probably others. I realize that some of these sites
>>> serve different purposes to different groups, but IMHO, DHIS is a
>>> great product that suffers from really poor marketing. Having
>>> information spread across all these different sites spreads thin
>>> resources and creates confusion among people trying to access
>>> information on DHIS. We, as a community, need to consolidate all of
>>> this information into a single portal at the least, and a single site
>>> at best.
>>>
>>> I honestly think, if there is anyway, to create a single site, that
>>> has documentation, demos, links to the source code, a wiki for more
>>> informal documentation, a forum, etc...this would be the way to go. I
>>> personally favour dhis2.org because it sounds less commercial than
>>> dhis2.com. Most people have no idea what HISP is (I have been trying
>>> to figure out for years but still have not a very good grip on it
>>> either!) and it really does not matter for those using the prodcuct
>>> DHIS2 or 1.4, born out of HISP.
>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>> I think if the university can host the site, this would be the best
>>> way to ensure sustainability. It is just a DNS record. After all the
>>> investment the university has put into the product, they should be
>>> able to host a DNS record after all.
>>>
>>> </flame>
>>>
>>> OK, I am done. Lets get a single site with all the information in one
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> jason
>>>
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>>
>>
>> Hi, we definitely need to consolidate the info. But in fact this is what
>> we are working on right now, let me explain a little. The idea is this: one
>> site for the software / product (dhis2.org), one collaboration platform
>> (launchpad) and one site for the network (hisp).
>>
>>
>>
>> 2) dhis2.org
>> 3) dhis2.com
>>
>> The dhis2 site will contain what you mention; downloads, docs, developer
>> page, functionality info, link to demo etc. Bob questioned the use of the
>> .com domain which we took into consideration and changed to .org. From now
>> on we will promote the .org domain. Still I think it makes sense to keep the
>> .com domain as well, if someone hears of dhis2 and types in dhis2.com in
>> his browser something should be there. I have sent a request to AN Hosting
>> support to redirect the dhis2.com to dhis2.org, rather than having it as
>> a "parked" domain. Also, we will move the actual downloadable files to this
>> server.
>>
>>
>> 9) launchpad.net
>>
>> Launchpad, as you know, provides version control, issue management, bug
>> tracking. This in in fact not overlapping with the dhis2.org except for
>> the quick intro on the front page.
>>
>>
>> 1) hisp.info
>>
>> The new HISP site will provide information on the HISP network, such as
>> which countries we are in, who are working for us, our vision, our
>> strategy/philosophy and so on. This will be hosted on the web hotel of the
>> University of Oslo to ensure sustainability and greater visibility. Which
>> URL to use is still up to discussion, hisp.org would be ideal but is
>> taken by HISP SA. Anyway, users of DHIS 2 would not have to take this site
>> into account.
>>
>>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for bringing up this discussion Jason and for letting us in on your
> strategy Lars, here are my comments:
>
> Lars, I think you simplify the notion of DHIS users... I think they are
> definitely part of the network and should be aware of what it is, what can
> be gained from the network, and how to contribute to it.
>
> The hisp.info domain is now widely recognised as a site about HISP so
> don't see why we should move away from that.
>
>
Just to underscore the point of keeping hisp.info, the little map on the
front page of the wiki says that today there have been 11 different visitors
from these countries;
Sweden 2
Indonesia 1
Cote d'Ivoire 1
Bosnia 1
Malawi 1
China 1
New Zealand 1
Norway 1
Switzerland 1

And totally over the last 22 months there have been a total of 8644 visits.
Not bad, especially considering how often this page has been down over the
last 6 months or so.

Ola
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> Important to discuss though, but perhaps not on an open developer list is
> "what is the HISP network?","where is the center, is Oslo it? and do we need
> a center?", what about the other sites like hisp.org for SA and their
> related projects (all over Africa), the hispindia.org site and Vietnam's
> site, and probably more local HISP sites as well. That is also part of the
> network. That is a more interesting discussion I think.
>
> That said, I totally agree with Jason on the need to be able to market HISP
> as a whole much better, as right now it is difficult to sense the "total
> strength" of the HISP network or e.g. the spread of DHIS usage around the
> world, as it more of an underground network that pops up on so many
> different sites and occasions, which can also be a strength....
>
> I think HISP's web presence need to be part of the planned strategic
> discussions in Oslo next month.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> 4) phitoolkit.org
>> 5) openhealthconsortium.org
>>
>> These sites are set up by WHO, not HISP, and I cannot account for them,
>> but DHIS 2 user would not have to use them.
>>
>>
> This of course becomes a bit more complicated the day DHIS 2 is also
> branded under a different name (tentative name is OpenHealthMapper) as a WHO
> tool.....  We definetely do not want to duplicate all information on the
> software.
>
>
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>> 6) http://208.76.222.114
>> 7) hispkerala.org
>>
>> Will not be used anymore.
>>
>>
>> 8) dhismobile.info
>>
>> I have plans to work with Saptarshi/Ime to make the work they have done on
>> the mobile application more visible in the HISP network and get this info
>> onto dhis2.org.
>>
>> That's great news. The world really needs to know more about all the good
> stuff happening in HISP on this front.
>
>
> Ola
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>> Lars
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