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[Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>]

I reread the README.txt file, included with the distro. There is no
problem as long as

(a) you distribute the Software complete and unmodified and only
    bundled as part of your applets and applications ("Programs")

There is some other legal mumbo-jumbo there, but it seems to be
essentially of no consequence.

So, for the installer I created, the entire jre installer was
distributed and triggered as part of the install process, and the
users have to go through  all the click through action. Silent
installs seem to be possible and would not seem to immediately violate
the license agreement either (although I am no lawyer).

Anyway, I am not going to let this bother me. The more Java virtual
machines the better for Sun. I think they have bigger problems to
worry about. I will wait for the Cease and Desist Letter anxiously. We
have some good responses here http://thepiratebay.org/legal

Cheers,
Jason


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> OK.  maybe I'm wrong.  I just assumed that to be the case because of
> how the licence dialog always popped up on linux installs.  Thats why
> the openjdk was a such a good initiative.
>
> Anyway sun's lawyers are moot at the moment.  Mostly staring looming
> redundancy in the face I imagine.  Oracle's lawyers are the new kids
> on the block.  Though I can't see them tracking down Jason in a hurry
> :-)
>
> Cheers
> Bob.
>
> 2010/2/10 Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> Here is a guy who seems to be saying the practice of just providing JRE
>> unpackaged and bundled is ok. By far the easiest thing to do (not bothering
>> the poor user with all these different interfaces - one for DHIS, one for
>> Java, one for the database...):
>> "What I mean is creating a subfolder in the installation directory with a
>> cut down jre (which is allowed in the license agreement)"
>> http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=708451
>>
>> 2010/2/10 Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> 2010/2/10 Lars Helge Øverland <larshelge@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Jason Pickering
>>>> <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, what do you mean I can't do it? Like it violates the license?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I did do it, and it worked, but I guess Sun's lawyers will be
>>>>> paying me a visit here in Lusaka. I packaged the EXE and triggered it
>>>>> during the installation, similar to the Postgres MSI. The same
>>>>> click-through installation procedures was used with postgres as well,
>>>>> although this could be done silently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, the little notice that you must download it will not work here,
>>>>> as there will be no internet where  I will be next week.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the Sun distro cannot be packaged, even the EXE, then this is a
>>>>> problem, and we need to find another JRE.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nice work..
>>>> I think as long as the end user clicks agree to the the terms/license it
>>>> is not a problem...
>>>
>>> Agree. Interesting to see they also provide silent installs...how does
>>> that work, license-wise?
>>> http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/install/jre/silent.html
>>> Knut
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lars
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Cheers,
>>> Knut Staring
>>
>>
>>
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>> Cheers,
>> Knut Staring
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