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[Ola Hodne Titlestad <olatitle@xxxxxxxxx>]

Jason,

What are you trying to achieve using the dataset sections?


Ola Hodne Titlestad |Technical Officer|
Health Metrics Network (HMN) | World Health Organization
Avenue Appia 20 |1211 Geneva 27, Switzerland | Email: titlestado@xxxxxxx|Tel:
+41 788216897
Website: www.healthmetricsnetwork.org

Better Information. Better Decisions. Better Health.


On 20 April 2010 11:19, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Sounds good, but I need to fix this now. Will have a look myself and
> see what can be done in the interim. Creating a dataset section is
> nigh impossible with several hundred elements unsorted.
>
> On 4/20/10, Ola Hodne Titlestad <olatitle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Note that there is a planned revamp of the whole forms/dataset model
> quite
> > soon and this blueprint for 2.0.5 covers at least improved functionality
> in
> > terms of defining the layout of default forms, incl. sort order:
> > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/dhis2/+spec/improved-forms
> >
> > The goal is to be able to use the default tabular forms as much as
> possible,
> > since that will save us all a lot of time.
> > These default tabular forms should be (as it they are today) generated
> off a
> > data set with data elements and one or more category combos,  but we need
> to
> > provide the form designers with more options in terms of disabling
> certain
> > fields, sort order of data elements, pivoting of the table (option to
> have
> > data elements on columns and categories on rows).
> >
> > The idea is to use custom forms (which take a lot more time to design)
> only
> > when its not possible to generate the form off the data set and some
> > additional (and not too complicated) layout choices.
> > Most tabular forms should be possible to auto generate.
> >
> > Feel free to add to the blueprint.
> >
> > Ola Hodne Titlestad |Technical Officer|
> > Health Metrics Network (HMN) | World Health Organization
> > Avenue Appia 20 |1211 Geneva 27, Switzerland | Email:
> > titlestado@xxxxxxx|Tel:
> > +41 788216897
> > Website: www.healthmetricsnetwork.org
> >
> > Better Information. Better Decisions. Better Health.
> >
> >
> > On 20 April 2010 10:31, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> >> This may actually be a problem due to the way that the data elements
> >> were sorted in DHIS 1.4. 1.4 allows you to specify both a sorting
> >> order in the dataelement table, as well as the equivalent of the
> >> datasetmembers table. A global (system) setting allows one to chose
> >> how they should be displayed in lists. Our data elements were sorted
> >> correctly according to the dataset,  but as far as I can tell,  DHIS2
> >> does not support sorting of data elements by data set (at least there
> >> is no field in datasetmembers that would support this)
> >>
> >> On  the datasetsection page, the ordering that is presented to me, is
> >> not in alphabetical order the SECOND time I enter the page. The first
> >> time, everything is ordered alphabetically (user setting), the second
> >> time around, the ordering is completely mixed up. I would expect it to
> >> follow the user setting (alphabetical) but this does not seem to be
> >> the case.
> >>
> >> I agree that it should probably be a system setting, similar to DHIS1.4.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Ola Hodne Titlestad
> >> <olatitle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > My understanding of this is that you can apply the system wide custom
> >> sort
> >> > order to data elements in a data set section.
> >> >
> >> > In user settings you can set the sort order to be custom and then go
> to
> >> > Maintenance>Data Elements and sort the elements in the full list
> there.
> >> >
> >> > Then the data elements in the data set section (or data set) will be
> >> sorted
> >> > according to their global sort order when listed in a default data
> entry
> >> > form.
> >> >
> >> > My only concern with this is that the sort order is a user setting and
> >> not a
> >> > system setting so different users doing data entry might experience
> >> > different sort order, which may not be desired in data entry forms.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ola Hodne Titlestad |Technical Officer|
> >> > Health Metrics Network (HMN) | World Health Organization
> >> > Avenue Appia 20 |1211 Geneva 27, Switzerland | Email:
> >> > titlestado@xxxxxxx|Tel: +41 788216897
> >> > Website: www.healthmetricsnetwork.org
> >> >
> >> > Better Information. Better Decisions. Better Health.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 20 April 2010 10:08, Hieu Dang Duy <hieu.hispvietnam@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear Jason,
> >> >>
> >> >> Actually, this ordering is completely belongs to your action during
> on
> >> >> sorting data elements in the selected list.
> >> >> For example;
> >> >>
> >> >> Assuming that, there are five data elements such as: A, B, C, D and E
> >> >> in
> >> >> the available list. Then, if select each element following the
> ordering
> >> >> likes B, D, A, C in the selected list. So after coming back to edit
> >> >> that
> >> >> data section you will see the selected list of this one, which is not
> >> >> ordered alphabetically in expecting on.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:12 PM, jason.p.pickering
> >> >> <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Public bug reported:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> When creating a data set section, there is no logical ordering
> applied
> >> >>> to the data elements. The first time I created the dataset section,
> >> they
> >> >>> appeared to be ordered alphabetically. When I saved and edited the
> >> >>> dataset again, the ordering is completely jumbled up.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ** Affects: dhis2
> >> >>>     Importance: Undecided
> >> >>>         Status: New
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> dataset-section-no-sorting
> >> >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/567080
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> >> >>> developers, which is subscribed to DHIS.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Status in DHIS 2 - District Health Information Software: New
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Bug description:
> >> >>> When creating a data set section, there is no logical ordering
> applied
> >> to
> >> >>> the data elements. The first time I created the dataset section,
> they
> >> >>> appeared to be ordered alphabetically. When I saved and edited the
> >> dataset
> >> >>> again, the ordering is completely jumbled up.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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> >> Jason P. Pickering
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> >>
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> Jason P. Pickering
> email: jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx
> tel:+260968395190
>