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[Ola Hodne Titlestad <olatitle@xxxxxxxxx>]

I was more thing of the unzip and run package.

If there is a folder DHIS2Live/firefox-portable/ I thought we could simply
run DHIS in this specific browser with a command on the form:
"portable-firefox/firefox.exe http://localhost:8080/dhis";

Ola
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On 23 April 2010 10:48, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Including the browser as part of the install is trivial. Making it
> launch, without making it the default browser, is the issue really we
> are discussing and that will require modification to the DHIS2 tray
> app.
>
> I have currently three different installers in trunk. 1) Windows
> bare-bones installer that just installs H2 and DHIS2. 2) Windows
> installer with the H2 Sierra Leone DB 3) A console based installer for
> Linux. It would be simple enough to produce a fourth, and include a
> browser of choice. Still working on the postgres installer, but for
> Zambia, I was planning on distributing FireFox/Opera/Chrome or
> whatever the devs say is best along with the installer. I did not
> really want to make this browser the default, unless the user did this
> theirselves, which most browsers will try and do anyway, which is a
> bit of  a problem. If this feature of "Me first, Me first!" could be
> disabled for the SSB, then it sounds like a very good plan to me.
>
> Regards,
> JP
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Ola Hodne Titlestad
> <olatitle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I would still like us to pursue the idea of distributing a portable
> browser
> > with DHIS2 live to make it easier to get started with DHIS.
> > At least check whether this is doable or not.
> >
> > This would cater for DHIS training and the "I want to see what this is"
> > scenarios when the users are offline or on poor connections making online
> > demos difficult to use.
> >
> > The installer/production scenario is a bit different I think, but also
> very
> > important.
> >
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> >
> >
> > On 23 April 2010 10:31, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> My suggestion would be to keep it very simple.
> >>
> >> If the environment variable exists, and is of the form "C:\program
> >> files\dhis2\ssb\firefox.exe" then launch it. This would mean that this
> >> would only cater to the situation where someone has installed the
> >> program with the installer (which will likely be the case for many
> >> production installations) but not always.
> >>
> >> Otherwise, just fall back and do what is already in the code.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On 23 April 2010 09:04, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> On 23 April 2010 08:54, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> I somewhat agree with Bob, but I also see good reasons why packaging
> a
> >> >>> browser is a good idea. There seems to be pretty wide variation
> >> >>> between different browsers, and while it is a good idea to support
> >> >>> many different ones, it is also a lot of work. If we could focus on
> >> >>> being sure that all the browser-related bugs are not present, for
> >> >>> instance in Chrome or Firefox,  for a particular release, this would
> >> >>> ensure that the app is going to work properly in a production
> >> >>> environment.  I have seen a lot of problems in the field with people
> >> >>> installing toolbars, browser hijacking, etc that really is going to
> >> >>> complicate deployments unnecessarily.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> After looking at the code, it seems that setting an environment
> >> >>> variable might be the best solution, perhaps.
> >> >>> This could be set as part of the installation process. If the
> >> >>> environment variable exists (DHIS2_BROWSER) for example, then it
> would
> >> >>> attempt to open up DHIS2 with this. Otherwise, it would default to
> the
> >> >>> current Desktop.getDesktop().browse( URI.create (getUrl() ) ) );
> which
> >> >>> will simply launch the default browser.
> >> >>
> >> >> I guess this could work with an exec.  I'll take a look.
> >> >
> >> > Though I am reluctant to depend on the environment variable for the
> >> > out-of-the-box experience.  The nice thing about dhis-live is that you
> >> > can drop it in and run it.  It is this zero-install-fiddling which
> >> > people like.  Setting environment variables is the next level of
> >> > customisation and sophistication for users.  Other possibilities:
> >> >
> >> > (i)   check for the existence of a "portable-firefox" folder.  If
> >> > available use that.
> >> > (ii)  open a dialog on first invocation requesting users to pick a
> >> > browser (I have no idea at this stage how to list them).  But that
> >> > choice would have to be persisted somehow.
> >> > (iii) .... ?
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>  Of course, this could be made as an option of the installer,
> whether
> >> >>> to install one of these site-specific browsers or not, but I think
> the
> >> >>> advantages outweigh the disadvantages. It is certainly worth testing
> I
> >> >>> think.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Regards,
> >> >>> Jason
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Ola Hodne Titlestad
> >> >>> <olatitle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>> On 22 April 2010 23:28, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On 22 April 2010 19:35, Jason Pickering
> >> >>>>> <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>> > I think it should probably be a blueprint and  I think it is a
> >> >>>>> > good
> >> >>>>> > idea.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > It is certainly  a problem on many machines I have encounterd in
> >> >>>>> > the
> >> >>>>> > field. We need to install FireFox, Chrome, Opera or something,
> and
> >> >>>>> > ideally make it the default browser. This seems to be a good
> idea
> >> >>>>> > to
> >> >>>>> > me, but can seem a bit drastic to some users.  Ideally, the
> >> >>>>> > installer
> >> >>>>> > would come prepackaged with this browser. When DHI2 Live is
> >> >>>>> > launched,
> >> >>>>> > instead of making a call to the default browser (which in most
> >> >>>>> > cases
> >> >>>>> > in IE), assuming that this was installed as part of a special
> live
> >> >>>>> > package, then this browser would get opened instead, thereby
> >> >>>>> > launching
> >> >>>>> > DHIS2. I am not so sure about the DHIS2 live part, as it simply
> >> >>>>> > launches the default browser. Bob?
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> I don't think its very easy to coax dhis2-live to open anything
> >> >>>>> besides the default browser.  Not that its impossible, but
> probably
> >> >>>>> very messy.  I'm also not sure we want to get into the browser
> >> >>>>> packaging business.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Could the portable firefox package be of any help here? We could
> put
> >> >>>> it in a
> >> >>>> standard location DHIS2Live/firefox/ and start it from there? I
> have
> >> >>>> used it
> >> >>>> for the PHIT and DHIS seems to run fine there. It is set up with
> all
> >> >>>> relative paths which should make it easier to distribute as no
> >> >>>> installation
> >> >>>> is needed.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Ola
> >> >>>> --------
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >> >>>>> > wrote:
> >> >>>>> >> Given that DHIS2 runs best in Chrome (especially the Mapping
> >> >>>>> >> module),
> >> >>>>> >> and also ok in Firefox, it might be a good idea to make sure
> >> >>>>> >> people
> >> >>>>> >> have access to one of these browsers.
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >> One way to do that is to package things with Prism (Firefox) or
> >> >>>>> >> Chrome
> >> >>>>> >> (or Fluid for Mac http://fluidapp.com/)
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1842277/chrome-application-shortcuts-mozilla-prism-installer
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >> What do you guys think?
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >> Knut
> >> >>>>> >>
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> >> >>> --
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> >> >>> Jason P. Pickering
> >> >>> email: jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >>> tel:+260968395190
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Jason P. Pickering
> >> email: jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx
> >> tel:+260968395190
> >
> >
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