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[Abyot Gizaw <abyota@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Thuy,

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Thuy Nguyen <thuy.hispvietnam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Kim Anh,
> Thanks a lot for your ideas.
> There are some things I am still don't understand much. Could you please
> explain more detail about manage items. and  how to create that in current
> DHIS. I still can't image how to do it using dataelement and data entry
> form.
>
> Example
>
> I
> 1. FHB receives items from supplier.
> They will input the details of items as below
>
> Name - Code - Date exp - Unit Price - Quantity
> Condom A - CA - 11/2012 - 100 - 50000
> Condom B - CB - 03/2014 - 150 - 10000
> Condom C - CC - 09/2011 - 50 - 20000
>
> 2. FHB view reports from RMDSs Report look like the 1158 form and see that
> RMDS1 need 1000 condoms. So FHB issues to RMDS1 1000 condoms (A, B, C)
>
> 3. RMDS1 receives items from FHB and input details of items they got as
> below
>
> Name - Code - Date exp - Unit Price - Quantity
> Condom A - CA - 11/2012 - 110 - 300
> Condom B - CB - 03/2014 - 160 - 200
> Condom C - CC - 09/2011 - 60 - 500
> 4. RMDS1 view reports 1158 from MOHs to see how much their MOHs want and see
> MOH11 need 500 comdoms this month. So RMDS1 issue 500 condoms (A, B, C) to
> the MOH1. (each RMDS has about 7 to 15 MOHs)
>
> 5. MOH11 receives items from RMDS1 and input details of items they got
> Name - Code - Date exp - Unit Price - Quantity
> Condom A - CA - 11/2012 - 120 - 100
>
> MOH15 receives items from RMDS1 and input details of items they got
> Name - Code - Date exp - Unit Price - Quantity
> Condom C - CA - 11/2012 - 120 - 45
>
> MOH15 receives items from RMDS1 and input details of items they got
> Name - Code - Date exp - Unit Price - Quantity
> Condom C - CC - 11/2012 - 120 - 30
> Condom B - CB - 03/2014 - 160 - 50
>
> Then my question is if we can use current DHIS, then how can we identify
> which one is data element?
>
> If we create Comdom A as a data element with categories options are Name,
> code, date exp, unit price, quantity is impossible. Because catgory options
> are same data type

I don't think this matters - I mean you don't have to be that strict I
guess. But if you want to be strict and make categoryoptions as units
slicing a given dimension, then create different categories for each
of these columns and combine them in categorycombo.

>
> If we create seperate data elements as Comdom A Name, Condom A code, Condom
> A Date Exp,.. then there would be many data elements, and these data entry
> forms won't be stable because when time change, there would be be new kind
> of condom D available in the market.
>
> And currently there is not Search function for data values in DHIS in
> aggregated report. So if I have the Condom name, I want to generate the list
> of organistation units were got it for last 6 months. but not view in each
> org unit. Because there would be many organisation units there.
>
> I need more your explainations
>
>
> Thuy
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kim-Anh Vo <catakim@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: New requirement from Sri Lanka
> To: Thuy Nguyen <thuy.hispvietnam@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> hello again,
>
> That's really interesting... as I guess.
> DHIS2 is possible to be customized for monitoring items through levels.
>
> Data:
> There are two data-flow to be kept in mind: upward (request) and downward
> (return).
> They're all the input-data indeed!
> So we need 2 collection of daels (categories also) with request/return as
> the identifiers.
>
> Services: all functions taken place by calculation/modification/... between
> these two data-flow. Eg: reports (aggregated input data - the same form for
> input data up/downward and output, and monitoring purpose as well), analysis
> by chart, GIS.
> With BIRT + reporttable concept (DHIS2): almost report-issues have clues for
> solution.
>
> Keep it as simple as possible :)
>
> Let me know how he project is going in the future.
> I'm interested the practical uses/customizations of DHIS2 like this!
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Thuy Nguyen <thuy.hispvietnam@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Thuy Nguyen <thuy.hispvietnam@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: New requirement from Sri Lanka
>> To: John lewis <johnlewis.hisp@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>
>> I was sleeping but wake up in the night and can't stop thinking of the
>> project. Let me describ more about the process of existing system. There was
>> an activity diagram but the doc she sent me by docx, i can't see any table
>> in that. I will send you tomorrow.
>>
>> Level 1 National : FHB
>>
>> Level 2 District : RMSD
>>
>> Level 3 Division : MOH
>>
>> The process from bottom to top
>>
>> 1. the MOH send the request form to RMSD. The form has code RH MIS 1158
>> (Monthly Contraceptive Strock Return/Request form) as I sent in previous
>> email.First of all
>>
>> This form has information of
>>
>> Month - Year send request
>> Places the form would be sent to
>> The main area of the form has a table with
>>
>> row is : condom, oral pill packet, injectables (DBMA) vials, intra uterine
>> device and implants
>> column is :
>>
>> Amount remain at the end of last month (a),
>>  amount received during a month,
>> total
>> amount issued/despensed during the month,
>> amount remain at the end of the month
>> amount require
>> average monthly requirement :
>> min qty
>> max qty: depend on the need of that stock.
>>
>> (3) = (1)+(2)
>> (4)
>> (5) = (3)-(4)
>> (5) -> (1) in next month
>> (6)=(8)-(5)
>> (7)= (sum (4) ) / Xmonths
>> (8)= Y * (7)
>> (9) = Z * (7)
>>
>> X : is number of months ( but atleast 3 months, or 6 months, 12
>> months,...)
>> Y : is minimum months of stock (Mos) that the specified org unit need to
>> store. Example the min of MOH is 2 months of store. So if the (7) is 150.
>> then Min quantity of MOH is 150 *2
>> Z : is maximum months of stock.
>>
>>
>> 2. RMSD has 3 things to do
>>
>> look at the form with the number of items required from MOH, and depend on
>> min max qty and the quantity where RDHS stock has ,they issue items to MOH.
>> They also track information of items they issued to which MOH
>> send the RH MIS 1158 to FHB to report remain items, issued items and
>> require number of new items. (same with MOH send request form to it)
>> After received items from FHB, RDHS need to confirm FHB that they got the
>> items.
>>
>> 3. FHB has 3 things to do
>>
>> receive the request form and issue items from RMSD.
>> If the stock has not enough item, or need more, then it will get the items
>> from suppliers.
>> FHB also have detail information of items they got from supplier (name,
>> quantity, date expiry, batch number, unit price, quantity price)
>> FHB issue items to RMSD. information of issue (Issue date, item names,
>> quantity, date expiry, batch/lot number, unit price, quantity price,
>> distribute to) it can be refered from "Out put item report.JPG" file.
>>
>> They want all information is save in central database, so that they can
>> get all kind of report, and if there is problem with item, then they can
>> generate report contain org unit were issued.
>>
>> Anyway, I will work with her every afternoon so I will discuss more and
>> get more information.
>>
>> --
>> Thuy
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thuy
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Best regards,
> Kim-Anh Vo
>
>
>
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