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[Jim Grace <jimgrace@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Maheed,

Have you considered using attribute category options for your projects? If
this works for you, you could consider the following with current DHIS 2
features:

- enter any data that applies to a project by selecting the project.
- enter goals/target as separate data elements, selecting the same project.
- use data element groups and/or indicator groups for different types of
reporting needs, e.g. an indicator group for % complete for indicators that
divide data by target.

In analysis, such as pivot table or visualization, select the project(s)
and indicator(s), and report over a sufficient number of years to capture
all the data for any of your projects.

This assumes that you can enter data on a per-project basis. Or does the
data need to be entered regardless of project, and then you impose the
concept of project by goals that apply during a time period?

Cheers,
Jim



On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Maheed Ramadan <maheed.ramadan@xxxxxx>
wrote:

>  Hi Bob,
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> Regarding point 1, you’re right. What I meant is that currently the actual
> and target data elements are not related in a way or another. So what is
> missing is some way to link them.
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> I am also with you that the target value could be either date bound and
> space bound. But I was just looking at it from a simple case/perspective.
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> Maybe your point to define target values for indicators is logical. But if
> this is done so that we can select a target data element for an indicator,
> I don’t know how simple it is to implement technically as both indicators
> and target data elements are subject to time and space.
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> At the end, I think what is mostly needed is to show/compare the actual &
> target values next to each other easily in pivot tables and/or reports.
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> Thanks for your feedback. Looking forward to other people’s comments.
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> Maheed
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> *From:* Bob Jolliffe [mailto:bobjolliffe@xxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 02, 2014 11:59 AM
> *To:* Maheed Ramadan
> *Cc:* DHIS 2 Developers list; dhis2-users
> *Subject:* Re: [Dhis2-devs] Requirement related to indicators - Target vs
> achieved
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> Hi Maheed
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> I am sure you will get much more informed feedback on this question
> because I think its something many folk grapple with.  Just a quick
> observation regarding implementation.
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> I don’t know if anybody have similar issues or requirements like this one.
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> I think 2 thinks are missing here:
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> 1-      Cannot define the target value for a data element within the data
> element itself. It should be defined using another data element
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> 2-      The target value are not time-bound. This means we cannot set
> that the target value should be reached starting date X and ending date Y.
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>  These two seem to be contradictory.  Associating a target value with a
> data element sounds sensible enough except that it would then lose the
> sense of target time.  So you need to use another dataelement. ( I am not
> sure whether that is in fact what you are saying with 1 or you are pointing
> out what is missing).  Note the same time boundedness can also be true of
> space.  It is possible that different countries, provinces, districts set
> different target values.
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> Do you think it makes more sense to focus on target values for indicators
> than dataelements?  (Oddly enough I imagine the measured value should be an
> indicator and the target value should be a dataelement because you'd want
> to enter these targets directly).
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> So maybe what is missing is the ability to assign a target dataelement to
> an indicator definition.  So an indicator can have (an optional)
> dataelement associated with it for its target values.  Of course you can do
> this "manually" but, as you say, the reports become laborious.  Having an
> explicit association might make it easier to design smart reports.
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> Look forward to hear what other people's experience is.
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