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[Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah, I do not know really how complicated it would be to implement in
DHIS2, but I do know we have performed this type of analysis in other
places outside of DHIS2 with SQL and scripts. Basically, it would involve
getting all of the opening and closed dates of the facilities, and then the
completed data set registrations and performing a period by period type of
analysis on the reporting rates, to provide a dynamic denominator (i.e.
number of facilities which are supposed to report). However, in practice,
what we saw was that the opening/closed dates were often not really that
accurate, often leading to percentages over 100%, since the facility was
supposedly closed, but still submitted a report.

I think if it is that big of a problem (sounds bad), you should to consider
to implement a custom report which would take this into account, but maybe
the developers could comment on how difficult this would be to implement.

Perhaps the bigger problem however is the focus on reporting compelteness,
as opposed to what is actually in the data? :-/

Regards,
Jason


On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks Jason,
>
> I know its complicated and very difficult to implement but in traditional
> national system focusing on reporting rates, it has come to point where
> districts would rather not add an Orgunit and if closed would want it
> deleted out of the systems or dataset removed.
>
> May be Analytics should consider Opening data and closing date, so that
> new Orgunit are given a current opening date
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Jason Pickering <
> jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> This is really a quite intricate problem, if it is going to be done
>> right. The easy "fix" would be to ignore whether a facility contrinbutes to
>> completeness rates if the opening and closed dates are not valid. In
>> practice however, it is more complicated than that, because a facility may
>> only report a data set for a few months, or be open only parts of the year
>> (I have seen this in two countries now, where certain facilities are always
>> closed during certain months, i.e. the Himalayan winter and tropical rainy
>> season). So, how would we account for this? The opening and closed dates
>> really have no meaning in this case, because it is only open sometimes, and
>> thus, is not expected to submit a repo
>>
>> So, although it might fix the problem of adding new facilities and
>> closing existing ones, I am not really so sure it would really solve the
>> actual problem.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Prosper,
>>>
>>> HISP-SA is working on a few related issues:
>>> - Validity periods (open/closeddates) for orgunits used to ensure no
>>> data entry for closed OUs, no validation rule violations for closed OUs,
>>> closed OUs not included in OrgUnitGroup counts used in indicators.
>>> - Validity periods for indicators
>>> - Validity periods for validation rules.
>>> See relevant blueprints
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if your issue is different - can you specify what you mean
>>> by "previous rates" in this context?
>>>
>>> regards
>>> calle
>>>
>>> On 1 April 2015 at 10:46, Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Team,
>>>>
>>>> Am not sure is am behind the decision of taking care of the challenge
>>>> most districts are experiencing.
>>>>
>>>> What has been the decision so far.
>>>>
>>>> Once a dataset is added to a facility, it affects the previous rates
>>>> regardless of the opening data.
>>>>
>>>> Whats is the status of this issues
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
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>> Jason P. Pickering
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>
>
>
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> Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
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