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[Calle Hedberg <calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx>]

Jason,

It's not that I don't WANT to write documentation - I've written a lot of
DHIS documentation since designing DHIS 1.0 in 1997. But it's difficult to
do that without in-depth knowledge of exactly how everything works, what is
supported and what is not supported - at the moment I just hitting what
feels like one wall after another (bugs, design issues) to just get DHIS2
up and running properly for our 55-60 databases.

Anyway, let's see how it will work - I've "committed" too

Regards
Calle

On 8 April 2015 at 15:50, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Hi Calle,
>
> I would agree with you and have acknowledged this as you say. However,
> since a large part of the documentation has been developed purely as a
> volunteer effort, it is what it is.  As I also epxlained in the workshop
> last summer (and several times on this list) the documents are open source,
> you are free (as are all) to contribute to improving them.The core team
> will be improving the documents gradually, as there is now central support
> ffor this, and issues on GtitHub are most welcome.  But like I said, if you
> do not like what is there, feel free to get involved.
>
> Also, if you do not want to participate in the Stack Exchange, there is no
> need to. We are trying this as a bit of experiment, and if it works, great,
> if it does not, then we can consider other route. However, StackExchange is
> a great resource for many technical communities, and it does not
> necessarily need to be limited to "techie" discussion. It is quite a
> difficult process to even get accepted into the site, but if we do, then it
> could potentially be a great resource for the community .
>
> Best regards,
> Jason
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Jason,
>>
>> Again maybe - I'm concerned about too many avenues/sites for technical
>> info that tend to change frequently, with the core team being unable to
>> maintain them and increasingly not responding at all or responding with the
>> usual RTFM (as you pointed out in your documentation presentation in Oslo
>> last year, the documentation is poor and fragmented - it's next to
>> impossible to find solutions to significant problems using that route
>> because so many things are NOT documented or it's buried under a lot of
>> techie lingo with limited or non-existent links to real-world issues as
>> they are viewed by people in the field).
>>
>> I'm increasingly convinced that we need fewer documents/sites for
>> technical info - and rather one major source that digs really deep into
>> every single aspect of the UI and processes, outlining both what is there
>> and what isn't. Too much of that is currently only in the heads of the core
>> team, which are overwhelmed and not able to respond to the more complicated
>> issues.
>>
>> Regards
>> Calle
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 April 2015 at 14:01, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Calle,
>>> The thinking here is that you will not need to ask the core team for a
>>> lot of stuff, so they can focus on other stuff.  This lists gets a lot of
>>> repeat questions and a lot of questions which could be answered if people
>>> bothered to read the documentation. Stack Exchange offers a means to keep
>>> answers in questions in a more FAQ type of format. It is not really meant
>>> to be a replacement for this list, but a more searchable site than the
>>> current mailing list (which admittedly is not always easy to dig through to
>>> find a specific answer to a given problem)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> OK, but getting answers (or even confirmation that the query has been
>>>> received) via direct questions to the core team or via the dev list is
>>>> generally difficult except for the simple/obvious stuff. Will adding
>>>> another community forum change that?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Calle
>>>>
>>>> On 8 April 2015 at 13:27, Lars Helge Øverland <larshelge@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks to your help we made it to the last stage of the stackexchange
>>>>> evaluation. We now need you to "commit" to using the site - your help is
>>>>> appreciated!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/77757/dhis2
>>>>>
>>>>> It only takes a second - please go to the link above, create an
>>>>> account if you didn't already, and click the "commit" link.
>>>>>
>>>>> We believe that having an online question-and-answers community will
>>>>> be very helpful for giving people access to DHIS-related knowledge.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>>
>>>>> best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Lars
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
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>> Calle Hedberg
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>
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