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Re: DHIS2 Docs
I don't like that we at naming the bp document. Let's file it a file api.
As much as possible I want to save the wording document until we implement
a proper nosql document storage.
We already have /api:documents which I want to remove (I doubt many
external apps depend on it)
On Tuesday, July 28, 2015, Elmarie Claasen <elmarie@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi all, there is a blueprint for this already
>
>
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/dhis2/+spec/document-dataelement-attribute-type
>
> Elmarie
> On 28 Jul 2015 11:27 AM, "Greg Rowles" <greg.rowles@xxxxxxxxx
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','greg.rowles@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Halvdan
>>
>> Sounds great and a good alternative! I'd like to work through an example
>> or two:
>>
>> We have annual performance plans made up of multiple quarterly reports so
>> I would expect there to be 2 data sets:
>> - Annual Performance Plans (fYear)
>> - Quarterly Performance Reports (fQuarter)
>>
>> If we configure these data sets to include a single data element of type
>> 'Text' what name would we give to this element? 'Document' or 'File'?
>>
>> We're currently experimenting with ownCloud for document storage as an
>> interim solution. I guess nothing stops us from loading the ownCloud URL
>> into datavalue.value?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Harsh Atal <harsh.atal@xxxxxxxxx
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','harsh.atal@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Halvdan,
>>>
>>> *We are planning on introducing files as a type for data values, as well
>>> as data elements supporting this (document, images). You would then use the
>>> datavalue model to implement these types of requirements.*
>>>
>>> ^^This is exactly what is needed by us. I didn't know this was already
>>> in the works!!
>>>
>>> May be its a bit early to ask but.....for which version is this planned
>>> for? It will be of immense use in one of our projects.
>>>
>>> regards
>>> harsh
>>>
>>> On 28 July 2015 at 14:10, Halvdan Grelland <halvdanhg@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','halvdanhg@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We are planning on introducing files as a type for data values, as well
>>>> as data elements supporting this (document, images). You would then use the
>>>> datavalue model to implement these types of requirements.
>>>>
>>>> The implementation is in the works but is a fairly complex beast as
>>>> we're juggling actual files outside of the database (we consider in-db
>>>> storage of large blobs uscalable and a generally bad idea). We're also
>>>> planning to enable offloading this to third party cloud storage (eg amazon
>>>> s3).
>>>>
>>>> I'm on holiday at the moment but please respond if you have any
>>>> comments and I'll get back to you when I can.
>>>> On 28 Jul 2015 10:02 am, "Greg Rowles" <greg.rowles@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','greg.rowles@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>
>>>>> These are the concepts we've been thinking about:
>>>>>
>>>>> DocumentSet, DocumentSetLevel, Document.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [DocumentSet] would similar to data sets in that they are cyclical.
>>>>> They may have different periodTypes (e.g. yearly, fYealy, quarterly,
>>>>> fQuarterly, onChange) and may be compulsory. These include performance
>>>>> plans, development plans, mandatory reporting requirements, policy
>>>>> documents or content originating in other domains. A DocumentSet may have a
>>>>> design template (or default document) from which users borrow layout for
>>>>> their submissions.
>>>>>
>>>>> [DocumentSetLevel] is the orgunitlevel associated with DocumentSet
>>>>> (and possibly a compulsory y/n field). This caters for mandatory reporting
>>>>> requirements across different levels of the DHIS hierarchy.
>>>>>
>>>>> [Document] would be the actual object and associated meta data
>>>>> (DocumentID, name, uid, description, owner, creationdate,
>>>>> organisationUnitID, DocumentSetID, {startdate:enddate/periodid},
>>>>> downloadURL, etc)
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure how the actual document content would be hosted, stored or
>>>>> even what solutions are available right now but if the following concepts
>>>>> were available through API calls - it would make life really easy for us
>>>>> here in SA...
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Jason Pickering <
>>>>> jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, I get the requirement now. This would be documents which would be
>>>>>> uploaded as part of a data set submission. Yeah, this is not really
>>>>>> currently supported as far as I can tell, but it would be a good idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Harsh Atal <harsh.atal@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','harsh.atal@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Related to this we also have a similar requirement where the
>>>>>>> functionality for document upload is required as part of normal data entry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Basically, a person has to visit a facility for inspection and
>>>>>>> taking photos of the facility is part of that inspection. These photos then
>>>>>>> have to be uploaded as a kind of appendix along with the routine data entry
>>>>>>> of the inspection form.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>> harsh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 28 July 2015 at 11:08, Jason Pickering <
>>>>>>> jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx');>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Greg,
>>>>>>>> You can always simply upload the supporting document as a resource
>>>>>>>> and then make it available through a dashboard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Otherwise, maybe you could write a more specific blueprint?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Calle Hedberg <
>>>>>>>> calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greg,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As far as I know, this is just an idea that Lars and I have been
>>>>>>>>> chatting about. I'll bring it up during the expert academy to get wider
>>>>>>>>> inputs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> calle
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 27 July 2015 at 12:33, Greg Rowles <greg.rowles@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','greg.rowles@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Devs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I heard there is talk for supporting document storage as part of
>>>>>>>>>> DHIS2 but I don't find any plans on launchpad. Can anyone confirm?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> email: jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx
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>>>>>
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DHIS2 Docs
From: Greg Rowles, 2015-07-27
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Re: DHIS2 Docs
From: Calle Hedberg, 2015-07-27
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Re: DHIS2 Docs
From: Jason Pickering, 2015-07-28
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Re: DHIS2 Docs
From: Harsh Atal, 2015-07-28
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Re: DHIS2 Docs
From: Jason Pickering, 2015-07-28
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Re: DHIS2 Docs
From: Greg Rowles, 2015-07-28
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Re: DHIS2 Docs
From: Halvdan Grelland, 2015-07-28
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Re: DHIS2 Docs
From: Harsh Atal, 2015-07-28
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Re: DHIS2 Docs
From: Greg Rowles, 2015-07-28
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Re: DHIS2 Docs
From: Elmarie Claasen, 2015-07-28