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[Morten Olav Hansen <morten@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi everyone

Seems clear that we are not ready to get rid of the smartphone web version
yet, so we will wait at least one more release (the Android apps need
proper translation also).

So let's focus on the light mobile, is anyone using that?

-- 
Morten Olav Hansen
Senior Engineer, DHIS 2
University of Oslo
http://www.dhis2.org

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Jason Pickering <
jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Araz,
> OK, that is good news. I understand Morten's point about the translations
> being "free" now, as they are essentially supported out of the box.
>
> I think it would be good if we could experiment with this, and to that
> end, I have setup a translation project here on the translation server (
> https://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-android-translations/) which
> should allow us to perform the translations and then round-trip them back
> to the source code. There are not that many, so it might be good to test
> with French or Spanish first and see if it works.
>
> A few more thoughts about this though. Moving people off of one system and
> onto another may not be as easy as it sounds. In many cases, phones have
> been procured and placed (often in remote areas). People need to be
> retrained. This takes time (and often a lot of money). So, once
> implementers start using the Light or Smartphone module, it may not be so
> easy to change the client (unlike the server). I think if we give the
> people who are an upgrade pathway, at least it will allow them time to
> plan.
>
> Regards,
> Jason
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Araz Abishov <araz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I will try to answer most of the questions which appeared in the thread.
>>
>> *Ifeanyi*,
>> Could you please expand a little bit on problems you have experienced
>> with android clients? Especially this one:
>>
>> For example, you do not get a completed entry report using the app each
>> time a user submits data
>>
>>
>> We are planning to start developing new version of android data capture
>> client, so your feedback can help us to solve problems which people
>> experience in the field.
>>
>> *Morten and Jason,*
>> In order to translate UI components in android apps we just need to
>> supply translations of prompts in .xml. Operating system will pick up
>> translations based on system settings (if your phone is running in
>> Norwegian and application contains corresponding translations, they will be
>> automatically applied to UI). The only problem for us is to provide
>> translations for languages which *are not officially supported by
>> android *and there is no clean, straightforward way to solve this
>> problem at the moment.
>>
>> P.S. It is pretty sad that people don’t use android apps only because of
>> internationalization problems, we definitely should look into this in near
>> future (we can discuss this during academy).
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> —
>> Araz Abishov,
>> Android developer, DHIS 2
>> University of Oslo
>> https://www.dhis2.org/
>>
>> On August 2, 2016 at 11:57:10 AM, Halvdan Hoem Grelland (
>> halvdan@xxxxxxxxx) wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Which version are you currently using, and what are your future upgrade
>> plans?
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Collins McAdoyo <collins.adoyo@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Jason & Team,
>>>
>>> Kindly keep mobile versions for now, as mentioned by Sadik, we are using
>>> it here in Kenya for field data collection for Malaria project.
>>> We would be keen to make arrangements for alternatives.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Collins
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:07 PM, sadikngoa <sadikngoa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jason and Devs
>>>> This is also being used in Kenya for data entry using smart phones at
>>>> village level with MACEPA team.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Sadik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Jason Pickering
>>>> Date:08/01/2016 14:39 (GMT+03:00)
>>>> To: Morten Olav Hansen
>>>> Cc: dhis2-users ,dhis2-devs
>>>> Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Possible removal of mobile "light" and
>>>> mobile "smartphone" in 2.25
>>>>
>>>> I know that this was being used by the team in Ethiopia and Zambia, so
>>>> I might hold off removing it until we can get confirmation from them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Morten Olav Hansen <morten@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi mobile team
>>>>>
>>>>> Any comments?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Morten Olav Hansen
>>>>> Senior Engineer, DHIS 2
>>>>> University of Oslo
>>>>> http://www.dhis2.org
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Ifeanyi Okoye <ifeanyiokoye@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Morten,
>>>>>> We are using mainly for data capture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The smartphone module is a bit more flexible than the android app. We
>>>>>> are using android phones and have the data entry app installed on the
>>>>>> phones. We have had instances where the users entered data for several
>>>>>> months at a stretch using the app and we could not find the data in the
>>>>>> database (possibly a network issue). If the app can be upgraded to simulate
>>>>>> the smartphone module, it would prove more useful. For example, you do not
>>>>>> get a completed entry report using the app each time a user submits data,
>>>>>> which you get using the module. Also, the messaging function is quite a
>>>>>> useful tool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warm Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ifeanyi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read DrMaestro's Blog
>>>>>> www.ifeanyiokoye.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* Morten Olav Hansen <morten@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> *To:* Ifeanyi Okoye <ifeanyiokoye@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> *Cc:* Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx>; dhis2-users <
>>>>>> dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; dhis2-devs <
>>>>>> dhis2-devs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2016 3:27 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Dhis2-users] Possible removal of mobile "light" and
>>>>>> mobile "smartphone" in 2.25
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ifeanyi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What version of DHIS2 are you on? are you using it mainly for data
>>>>>> collection, or also messaging?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What kind of phones are they using? have you also tried our Android
>>>>>> clients?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Morten Olav Hansen
>>>>>> Senior Engineer, DHIS 2
>>>>>> University of Oslo
>>>>>> http://www.dhis2.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Ifeanyi Okoye <
>>>>>> ifeanyiokoye@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Morten,
>>>>>> Our program uses the Smartphone module for our outreach sites.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warm Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ifeanyi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read DrMaestro's Blog
>>>>>> www.ifeanyiokoye.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> *To:* Morten Olav Hansen <morten@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> *Cc:* dhis2-users <dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; dhis2-devs <
>>>>>> dhis2-devs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:30 PM
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Dhis2-users] Possible removal of mobile "light" and
>>>>>> mobile "smartphone" in 2.25
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Morten,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For HISP Uganda uses we have never used them at all. We are okay with
>>>>>> them going
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Morten Olav Hansen <morten@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are thinking of possibly removing these 2 projects from DHIS 2
>>>>>> Core in 2.25 release, but we wanted to know if anyone is still using them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They haven't been updated in a very long time (4-5 releases at least)
>>>>>> and is not updated to work with any of the latest model changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Morten Olav Hansen
>>>>>> Senior Engineer, DHIS 2
>>>>>> University of Oslo
>>>>>> http://www.dhis2.org
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>> Software developer, DHIS 2
>> University of Oslo
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