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[Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>]

Wanjala ....
VERY good start for a standard list
Can you share it with us please
Regards
Arthur

On Tuesday, 11 October 2016, wanjala pepela <wanjala2p@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> iHRIS always have detailed information and personalized information that
> are confidential but what is required for exchange is aggregated
> information; # are ideal, May be countries need to share  common cadres of
> staff available or my recommendation is to use the WHO- recommended 16 main
> cadres to collect which will be useful for analysis;
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:49 AM
> *Subject:* [Dhis2-users] Looking for Human Resource System to integrate
> with DHIS
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> Prosper
> good to know .....
> BUT
> On the other hand, this is a great example of not thinking about USE of
> data ..... UNICEF is  proposing bottleneck analysis that needs HR data ...
> yet there is no  automatically  genersted quality / usable HR data in one
> place ......
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> Sounds like we need to quickly sit down and start to get aggregated data
> directly out of IHRIS so we can make bottleneck analysis ..... I hope this
> January workshop will provide this opportunity
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> Cheers
> A
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> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Hi Arthur,
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> For bottleneck analysis using HR indicators/data element, HISP Uganda with
> UNICEF support use aggregate HR DHIS2 dataset, we have not managed to
> integrate iHRS data yet.
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> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> Carl
> We do not need detailed data .... what was described as "core HRHIS" is
> more than good enough .... aggregate data with no details so that we can do
> workload indicators, Bottleneck analysis etc within DHIS, using imported
> data
> I would really like to see this in practice somewhere .... any ideas where
> this integration is actually working already?
>
> Regards
> Arthur
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> On 5 October 2016 at 14:56, Carl Leitner <litlfred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Hey Arthur,
> Let me know if you would like to talk about this.  If you are keen on
> doing everything in DHSI2 (rather than an separate HRIS system, such as
> iHRIS) then there are some existing standard data models for health worker
> information that it would be good to model your data elements after.
>
> Are you looking more for the aggregate number of HWs or do you need
> information on the HWs themselves?
> Cheers,
> -carl
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> On Oct 4, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Arthur,
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> I'm not directly involved with the HRIS work using DHIS, my current focus
> is on a fully integrated disease surveillance system. Will find out and get
> back to you.
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> Regards
> Calle
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> On 4 October 2016 at 15:15, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> Calle
> In Zambia we are also looking to set up what you call a "core" Human
> Resource HMIS ... mainly to do some "Bottleneck analysis" for our MDGi
> districts ...
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> Are we able to use a beta version and see what we are able to adapt it to
> our needs (same people being called different professional jobs  etc)  and
> then feed back into the development process ....interesting to know how far
> you have progressed?
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> Cheers
> a
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> On 26 August 2016 at 23:08, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Laura,
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> The two main HRIS component designs "within" DHIS2 are the HRHIS in
> Tanzania and another in Vietnam (John Lewis or Morten will be able to tell
> you more about that one).
>
> South Africa is currently using a customised Tracker app for managing
> Community Service and Internships (around 10,000 graduates are applying for
> internship or Community Service posts per annum).
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> We are also working on a "core" workforce registry tightly integrated with
> DHIS2. By "core" I mean it will only deal with actual HR resources
> including position, what they are licensed/authorised to do, and contact
> details. Things like continuous education, bursaries, payroll, etc are
> processed/managed by other systems. A major advantage of tight integration
> will be the ability to use DHIS2 communication and messages + user
> registration to communicate directly with health workers - in particular
> since health workers increasingly will be interacting directly with DHIS2
> on a daily basis through (daily) capturing of routine data, disease
> notifications, various Tracker apps (browser or Android), etc.
>
> Your basic requirements seem very similar: your primary need is to track
> the workforce as an INPUT RESOURCE to health service delivery, and not to
> track salaries and CVs and health insurance and employment history and a
> bunch of other "personal" things. So you need to know WHO they are, where
> they actually work and with what (in what position), what they are able to
> do (mostly this relates to formal/legal practice licensing etc, but it
> could be expanded to include specialist knowledge about certain diseases
> etc), and how to contact them.
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> Regards
> Calle
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> On 26 August 2016 at 21:56, gerald thomas <gerald17006@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> I had use ihris and it is good. If you want help with it I am willing to
> help.
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> On Aug 26, 2016 6:46 PM, "Laura E. Lincks" <laura.lincks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> u> wrote:
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> We are looking for a simple Human Resources tool to integrate with a DHIS
> aggregate database. Little is known of the needs of the HRIS, but for now
> it needs to track personnel details and groups of personnel will need to be
> associated with various programs in a separate DHIS aggregate database. An
> Open Source HRIS is preferable.
>
> In searching for tools I have come across the following:
> HRHIS <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HRHIS>in Tanzania developed by the
> HISP-TZ/University of Dar es Salaam
> iHRIS <http://www.ihris.org/> developed by global Capacity Project.​
>
> I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of or experience with these
> packages or if there were other applications that could be of use to us?
>
> Thanks in advance to anyone with leads or information.
>
> *Laura E. Lincks*
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