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[Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>]

Carl
again a good list of HR categories and good for a HR database to follow
As far as I know, the main emphasis of the Bottleneck analysis is on
professional staff .... so these will be the main ones we will need to
import into DHIS2

Regards
Arthur

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On 14 October 2016 at 21:33, Carl Leitner <litlfred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I think Wnajala is referring to the following:
>   http://www.who.int/hrh/statistics/Health_workers_classification.pdf
> it is a subset of the ISCO-08 codes.
>
> There is some more discussion on this here:
>    http://www.capacityplus.org/files/resources/establishing-
> using-data-standards-health-workforce-information-systems.pdf
>
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> Note that these classifications are automatically in iHRIS and the MOH can
> map their job/cadre classifications to these quite easily.
>
> Cheers,
> -carl
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> On Oct 11, 2016, at 2:27 AM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Wanjala ....
> VERY good start for a standard list
> Can you share it with us please
> Regards
> Arthur
>
> On Tuesday, 11 October 2016, wanjala pepela <wanjala2p@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> iHRIS always have detailed information and personalized information that
>> are confidential but what is required for exchange is aggregated
>> information; # are ideal, May be countries need to share  common cadres of
>> staff available or my recommendation is to use the WHO- recommended 16 main
>> cadres to collect which will be useful for analysis;
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>> *From:* Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>
>> *To:* Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx>
>> *Cc:* dhis2-users <dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Calle Hedberg <
>> calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx>; dhis2-devs <dhis2-devs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:49 AM
>> *Subject:* [Dhis2-users] Looking for Human Resource System to integrate
>> with DHIS
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>> Prosper
>> good to know .....
>> BUT
>> On the other hand, this is a great example of not thinking about USE of
>> data ..... UNICEF is  proposing bottleneck analysis that needs HR data ...
>> yet there is no  automatically  genersted quality / usable HR data in one
>> place ......
>>
>> Sounds like we need to quickly sit down and start to get aggregated data
>> directly out of IHRIS so we can make bottleneck analysis ..... I hope this
>> January workshop will provide this opportunity
>>
>> Cheers
>> A
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>> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Arthur,
>>
>> For bottleneck analysis using HR indicators/data element, HISP Uganda
>> with UNICEF support use aggregate HR DHIS2 dataset, we have not managed to
>> integrate iHRS data yet.
>>
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>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Carl
>> We do not need detailed data .... what was described as "core HRHIS" is
>> more than good enough .... aggregate data with no details so that we can do
>> workload indicators, Bottleneck analysis etc within DHIS, using imported
>> data
>> I would really like to see this in practice somewhere .... any ideas
>> where this integration is actually working already?
>>
>> Regards
>> Arthur
>>
>> *****Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress***
>> *(Frank Zappa)*
>> *Skype* arthur_heywood_za
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>> On 5 October 2016 at 14:56, Carl Leitner <litlfred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> Hey Arthur,
>> Let me know if you would like to talk about this.  If you are keen on
>> doing everything in DHSI2 (rather than an separate HRIS system, such as
>> iHRIS) then there are some existing standard data models for health worker
>> information that it would be good to model your data elements after.
>>
>> Are you looking more for the aggregate number of HWs or do you need
>> information on the HWs themselves?
>> Cheers,
>> -carl
>>
>>
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>> On Oct 4, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
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>> Arthur,
>>
>> I'm not directly involved with the HRIS work using DHIS, my current focus
>> is on a fully integrated disease surveillance system. Will find out and get
>> back to you.
>>
>> Regards
>> Calle
>>
>> On 4 October 2016 at 15:15, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Calle
>> In Zambia we are also looking to set up what you call a "core" Human
>> Resource HMIS ... mainly to do some "Bottleneck analysis" for our MDGi
>> districts ...
>>
>> Are we able to use a beta version and see what we are able to adapt it to
>> our needs (same people being called different professional jobs  etc)  and
>> then feed back into the development process ....interesting to know how far
>> you have progressed?
>>
>> Cheers
>> a
>>
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>> On 26 August 2016 at 23:08, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
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>> Laura,
>>
>> The two main HRIS component designs "within" DHIS2 are the HRHIS in
>> Tanzania and another in Vietnam (John Lewis or Morten will be able to tell
>> you more about that one).
>>
>> South Africa is currently using a customised Tracker app for managing
>> Community Service and Internships (around 10,000 graduates are applying for
>> internship or Community Service posts per annum).
>>
>> We are also working on a "core" workforce registry tightly integrated
>> with DHIS2. By "core" I mean it will only deal with actual HR resources
>> including position, what they are licensed/authorised to do, and contact
>> details. Things like continuous education, bursaries, payroll, etc are
>> processed/managed by other systems. A major advantage of tight integration
>> will be the ability to use DHIS2 communication and messages + user
>> registration to communicate directly with health workers - in particular
>> since health workers increasingly will be interacting directly with DHIS2
>> on a daily basis through (daily) capturing of routine data, disease
>> notifications, various Tracker apps (browser or Android), etc.
>>
>> Your basic requirements seem very similar: your primary need is to track
>> the workforce as an INPUT RESOURCE to health service delivery, and not to
>> track salaries and CVs and health insurance and employment history and a
>> bunch of other "personal" things. So you need to know WHO they are, where
>> they actually work and with what (in what position), what they are able to
>> do (mostly this relates to formal/legal practice licensing etc, but it
>> could be expanded to include specialist knowledge about certain diseases
>> etc), and how to contact them.
>>
>> Regards
>> Calle
>>
>> On 26 August 2016 at 21:56, gerald thomas <gerald17006@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I had use ihris and it is good. If you want help with it I am willing to
>> help.
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2016 6:46 PM, "Laura E. Lincks" <laura.lincks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> u> wrote:
>>
>> We are looking for a simple Human Resources tool to integrate with a DHIS
>> aggregate database. Little is known of the needs of the HRIS, but for now
>> it needs to track personnel details and groups of personnel will need to be
>> associated with various programs in a separate DHIS aggregate database. An
>> Open Source HRIS is preferable.
>>
>> In searching for tools I have come across the following:
>> HRHIS <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HRHIS>in Tanzania developed by the
>> HISP-TZ/University of Dar es Salaam
>> iHRIS <http://www.ihris.org/> developed by global Capacity Project.​
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of or experience with these
>> packages or if there were other applications that could be of use to us?
>>
>> Thanks in advance to anyone with leads or information.
>>
>> *Laura E. Lincks*
>> Database Manager/Developer
>> ICAP - Columbia University
>> Mailman School of Public Health
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