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Re: [udsm_hmis_team] Re: [Dhis2-devs] Is it practical for one data element to exit in two dataset?(eg District Hospital and Health center)?
Dear Arther, i think you have to consider data element category since you are talking of OPD and IPD.This can differ depending on their categories. (Make sure they all have same category eg Age is the same,Gender the same). Because most of the data element are the same but differ when you see their categories.
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Muhire Andrew
HMIS/Ministry of Health
andrew.muhire@xxxxxxxxxx
God is my provider.
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From: Masoud Mahundi <mmahundi97@xxxxxxxxx>
To: udsm_hmis_team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Muhire Andrew <muhireandrew@xxxxxxxxx>; Ola Hodne Titlestad <olati@xxxxxxxxxx>; Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [udsm_hmis_team] Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] Is it practical for one data element to exit in two dataset?(eg District Hospital and Health center)?
Sound good, doc. We can discuss that Monday morning
On 16 Sep 2011 15:47, "Arthur Heywood" <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Mahundi et al
> Can we not apply this to OUR Tanzania data elements, which have different
> data elements for IPD and OPD , acute and chronic
>
> Working with different data elements with same meaning is driving me MAD
> e.g. 70 (or more) examples such as
>
> - Diabetes Mellitus (ear infection acute, ear infection chronic etc etc
> etc ) in OPD
> - Diabetes Mellitus ( etc) in IPD
>
> *Why can we not have the same disease in two separate datasets??*
>
> Is it not possible to combine these?
>
> Regards
> Arthur
>
> On 16 September 2011 14:22, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> This is totally possible. You may have the same data element being
>> collected on two separate aggregation forms. Instead of creating two
>> data elements to represent the same thing, you just need to place the
>> same data element in two separate datasets. If you have "Total
>> attendance" at both the Hospital and Health center level, then you
>> might have two sepererate datasets (Hospital and PHC), with some data
>> elements which are different, some which are common.
>>
>> Best practice is to try and consolidate as many data elements as you
>> can across the different service levels, as in practice, we have seen
>> that they may be named differently at different service levels, but
>> actually represent the same occurrence.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Muhire Andrew <muhireandrew@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > Dear team,
>> > I can see its possible to link one data element to two or
>> more
>> > different dataset, Did this affect anything? eg one data element exit in
>> > both District Hospital and Health Center? can this affect the database?
>> Data
>> > entry? is it practical?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >
>> > Muhire Andrew
>> > HMIS/Ministry of Health
>> > andrew.muhire@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > God is my provider.
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Lars Helge Øverland <larshelge@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: nsanzumuhire venuste <vensanze@xxxxxxxx>
>> > Cc: Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>; Muhire Andrew <
>> muhireandrew@xxxxxxxxx>;
>> > "dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Ola
>> > Hodne Titlestad <olati@xxxxxxxxxx>; "dhis2-devs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
>> > <dhis2-devs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:30 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Re : Dear Dhis2 users how can i delete?
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > most operations are cached at the database layer so when doing manual
>> > database operations outside dhis you will need to either restart the
>> > application or clear the cache by going to "adminstration" -> "cache
>> > statistics" and clicking "clear cache".
>> >
>> > Lars
>> >
>> >
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Dear Dhis2 users how can i delete?
From: Muhire Andrew, 2011-09-12
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Re: Dear Dhis2 users how can i delete?
From: Lars Helge Øverland, 2011-09-12
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Re: Dear Dhis2 users how can i delete?
From: Muhire Andrew, 2011-09-12
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Re: Dear Dhis2 users how can i delete?
From: Ola Hodne Titlestad, 2011-09-12
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Re: Dear Dhis2 users how can i delete?
From: Muhire Andrew, 2011-09-14
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Re: Dear Dhis2 users how can i delete?
From: Knut Staring, 2011-09-14
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Re : Dear Dhis2 users how can i delete?
From: nsanzumuhire venuste, 2011-09-15
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Re: Re : Dear Dhis2 users how can i delete?
From: Lars Helge Øverland, 2011-09-15
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Is it practical for one data element to exit in two dataset?(eg District Hospital and Health center)?
From: Muhire Andrew, 2011-09-16
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Re: [Dhis2-devs] Is it practical for one data element to exit in two dataset?(eg District Hospital and Health center)?
From: Jason Pickering, 2011-09-16
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Re: [Dhis2-devs] Is it practical for one data element to exit in two dataset?(eg District Hospital and Health center)?
From: Arthur Heywood, 2011-09-16
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Re: [udsm_hmis_team] Re: [Dhis2-devs] Is it practical for one data element to exit in two dataset?(eg District Hospital and Health center)?
From: Masoud Mahundi, 2011-09-16