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[Muhire Andrew <muhireandrew@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Jason! so section forms are recommended to be on a safe side.
 




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Muhire Andrew

HMIS/Ministry of Health
First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you have to do..



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 From: Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> 
Cc: Muhire Andrew <muhireandrew@xxxxxxxxx>; "dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Running integrity checks on datasets with unlinked data element?
 
I have an idea how this could theoretically be done, but it would not
be so simple SQL as is normally used for the data integrity checks.
The custom forms are stored as HTML, and we would need to somehow
strip out all of the dataelements/catcombooptions and compare these
against what is "supposed" to be there. The problem is that custom
forms I think do not really have a requirement to have all the data
elements in a data set. For instance, I have left out some
DE/catcombooptions which are never used for data entry (similar to the
grey fields of the section forms), so that data is never entered into
them.

I would tend to agree with Knut. If you use the section forms, you can
be pretty sure that all of your data elements in the dataset are going
to show up.



On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> This may be yet another good reason to try and move away from custom forms.
> I think most of your forms could work well as custom forms.
>
> Knut
>
>
> On Thursday, January 12, 2012, Muhire Andrew wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear jason,
>> i have custom forms!
>>
>> ------------------------------On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 11:54 AM PST Jason
>> Pickering wrote:>Seems like a good idea. Do you have section forms or custom
>> forms?>>>On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Muhire Andrew
>> <muhireandrew@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:>>>> Hi to all,>> i would like to run
>> integrity check to see the data element that are in dataset that are not
>> linked to the form. Is this possible? Not data element without dataset (
>> data element in dataset that is not linked to the form). Because this
>> affects data completeness report(based on data values) where by the target
>> column counts all linked and nonlinked data elements which can confuse
>> users. Per now i just use a manual
>> checking.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------On Wed, Jan 11, 2012
>> 2:06 AM PST Ola Hodne Titlestad wrote:>I would suggest to capture service
>> availability and stock-outs as separate>data elements or even orgunit groups
>> for services, and not as some>interpretation of a 0. Then there is no
>>  need to capture zeros.>Once the data is aggregated up one level all this
>> zero/blank interpretation>is impossible anyway. The complete button also
>> gives an indication of>wheter data is missing of not.>Ola>On Jan 11, 2012
>> 9:45 AM, "Knut Staring" <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:> Here in India, the
>> activities of  Subcenters differ quite a bit in the> particular services
>> they offer. Therefore, since all use a standard format,> there will almost
>> always be a number of fields that are not applicable.> Because of this, they
>> maintain that 0 is signficant, because it means "Have> the service, but no
>> cases this month", whereas a blank field means "Don't> have the service" in
>> other words N/A.>>>>  Sometimes it can even mean something in-between, like
>> "We normally> distribute Iron tablets, but sometimes we don't have them
>> (blank), and> sometimes we have them but there is no demand (0)". In my view
>> the latter> semantics is quite complicated, and hard to get consistent, but
>>  I'm being> told the health workers handle it well. Thus, a typical report
>> can consist> of 50 positive integers, 7 blanks and 20 zeros.> Since data
>> entry on the mobile is quite cumbersome and zeros also tend to> fill up the
>> database, I would have preferred zeros to be non-significant> and just go
>> with blanks. But then we would lose the above distinction.> Knut>> --> Knut
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