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Re: Granular Control for Dataset association with orgunits

 

Yes I agree with you, we could implement it using "sensible defaults" and
let those who need it configure it with the extra time dimension.


On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Daniel Bridges
<dbridges@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>  Thanks for the clarification guys. I can see that it would add another
> level of complexity, but like you say Lars ultimately it will probably be
> necessary. I really like the dataset assignment editor at the moment.
> Perhaps as a suggestion you could keep this the same so if anyone
> associates / disassociates a dataset with an orgunit , the start / end date
> is today (or this week / month as appropriate). Then another option -
> 'dataset time editor' could be used to provide granular control over the
> start and end dates of a specific data set associated with the orgunits.
> This could look much like the assignment editor, but with timeperiods (week
> / month dependent on the dataset) as the columns? Then again might be much
> harder to implement than that....
>
> Happy thinking!
>
>
>
> On 25/02/13 10:29, Lars Helge Øverland wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
>  sorry at the moment it is not possible. We have been hearing this
> requirements a few times now and have been considering to include a time
> aspect in the data set assignment. On one side it will add some complexity
> and make it more challenging for users to maintain it properly, on the
> other side it might simply become necessary. Will think about it.
>
>  regards, Lars
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Jason Pickering <
> jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dan,
>> I do not think this is possible at the moment. Would be good though to
>> hear from the developers about this. For the national DHIS2 instance in
>> Zambia, we have developed custom reports which factor in the
>> startdate/enddate of the facility to determine whether or not they should
>> contribute to reporting completeness. However, this means that the start
>> dates and end dates must be maintained /populated correctly. This approach
>> would not take into account situations (mentioned for instance by Nick from
>> the Solomons on the list a week or so ago) when a facility may report on an
>> infrequent basis.
>>
>>  What you want would seem to require some sort of external analysis. You
>> could extract out the reporting completeness figures, but then run this
>> through an extra data set which would contain information on the dates
>> which you expect the facility to report.  Not really sure there is really
>> any way to get this out of the system at the moment though, unless you were
>> to create yet another dataset "Expected reports" and then have a Yes/No
>> data element to record whether or not you actually expect a report for a
>> given facility for a given dataset. Sounds messy.
>>
>>  Regards,
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Daniel Bridges <
>> dbridges@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hope this hasn't been asked before, but is there any way to associate an
>>> orgunit with a dataset for a defined period, or at least a start period? We
>>> are migrating users from one dataset to an updated one with different
>>> questions etc. The changeover will take some time so had to create a second
>>> dataset rather than change the original. Anyway if you look at 'Reporting
>>> rate summary' reports it gets very confusing. For example lets say orgunit
>>> 'Muchila' is associated with dataset old for Dec 2012 and then is changed
>>> to dataset new for Jan 2013. If you look at the reporting rate summary
>>> report for dataset old, there is no information for Dec or Jan (blank /
>>> empty table). Conversely if you look at dataset new for either of these
>>> months then the table is populated with expected values. This is fine for
>>> Jan 2013 as you are expecting data, but Dec 2012 should give a blank....
>>> For creating charts this makes no difference, but it is sometimes important
>>> to determine whether a 0 means the orgunit failed to report or not.... This
>>> may be difficult to determine with historical data!
>>>
>>> Hope all of that made sense - let me know if I need to clarify.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Dan
>>>
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