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[Nayeem Al Mifthah <n.mifthah@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi
Even anyone can't complete a form which have a compulsory data element with
numeric value zero, whether zero value saving is off.

The asterisk can be used in all dataset and forms. Is there any value to
put it as a option per dataset?

*Nayeem Al Mifthah*
HMIS C
onsultant
Management Information System
Directorate General of Health Services (DGHS), Bangladesh
Supported by: UNICEF
-Bangladesh

Email: *n.mifthah@xxxxxxxxx <n.mifthah@xxxxxxxxx>*
*   | nayeem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <nayeem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>*
Cell:*+8801914030574*


On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Lars Helge Øverland <larshelge@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think if we are to create a blueprint it should be for an option per
> data set, like "Make compulsory data elements required fields in form".
>
> Currently the main purpose of the compulsory data elements is to define
> which elements should be used for completeness / reporting rates. Form
> validation is a slightly different concern.
>
> regards,
>
> Lars
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Nayeem,
>> It was more a question for the developers, as we try not to clutter the
>> BP list too much ;-)
>>
>> Knut
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Nayeem Al Mifthah <n.mifthah@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah... why not?
>>>
>>> *Nayeem Al Mifthah*
>>> HMIS C
>>> onsultant
>>> Management Information System
>>> Directorate General of Health Services (DGHS), Bangladesh
>>> Supported by: UNICEF
>>> -Bangladesh
>>>
>>> Email: *n.mifthah@xxxxxxxxx <n.mifthah@xxxxxxxxx>*
>>> *   | nayeem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <nayeem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>*
>>> Cell:*+8801914030574*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I have been missing this for a long time. Should I make a
>>>> blueprint for it?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Knut
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Nayeem Al Mifthah <
>>>> n.mifthah@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> An asterisk is a good option for indication. In Bangladesh we give
>>>>> asterisks on custom forms. Default form should have the indication.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Nayeem Al Mifthah*
>>>>> HMIS C
>>>>> onsultant
>>>>> Management Information System
>>>>> Directorate General of Health Services (DGHS), Bangladesh
>>>>> Supported by: UNICEF
>>>>> -Bangladesh
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: *n.mifthah@xxxxxxxxx <n.mifthah@xxxxxxxxx>*
>>>>> *   | nayeem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <nayeem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>*
>>>>> Cell:*+8801914030574*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There should be an option to enforce it like you say, but with the
>>>>>> current implementation the form doesn't even indicate (eg with an asterisk)
>>>>>> which data should always be entered, even when 0.
>>>>>> It only shows up in validation.
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2014 4:07 PM, "Nayeem Al Mifthah" <n.mifthah@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As per my understanding. Compulsory data element is used for
>>>>>>> enforcing to fill up of the element for fulfilling the dataset. Without
>>>>>>> fill the compulsory data element(s) no one can complete the dataset.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For numeric value there is a caution to use Compulsory data element
>>>>>>> about zero '0' value saving.
>>>>>>> For other data types it is OK for use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Nayeem Al Mifthah*
>>>>>>> HMIS C
>>>>>>> onsultant
>>>>>>> Management Information System
>>>>>>> Directorate General of Health Services (DGHS), Bangladesh
>>>>>>> Supported by: UNICEF
>>>>>>> -Bangladesh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Email: *n.mifthah@xxxxxxxxx <n.mifthah@xxxxxxxxx>*
>>>>>>> *   | nayeem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <nayeem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>*
>>>>>>> Cell:*+8801914030574*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Adebusoye Anifalaje <
>>>>>>> busoye@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It’s not enforced in the sense that you have validation violation
>>>>>>>> if the data value is not completed. It is used as an alternative
>>>>>>>> calculation for reporting rates.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is my understanding. There might be other views.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Busoye
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 17 Jul 2014, at 09:54, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello all, is the compulsory data elements enforced somehow? I'm
>>>>>>>> not clear on how to use them....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Knut
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Knut Staring
>>>>>>>> Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo
>>>>>>>> +4791880522
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>> Knut Staring
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