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[David Hagan <david.hagan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for all the inputs,

My instincts said two DE's as well ... but could see you could *possibly*
'get-away' with a ring-fenced data-entry strategy for one data-element in
two datasets. We'll do a little bit more experimentation with a sample of
historical and current data - we're just trying to avoid complicating our
custom reports and analytics for users of the data.

David

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:03 AM Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hm, my instinct was to say the same as the manual says, but when I tested
> it with the same restrictions that Juan Manuel pointed out, it seemed to
> work fine.
>
> Knut
>
> On 14 Jul 2016 10:38 p.m., "Jason Pickering" <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Knut,
>>
>> AFAIK, this is not recommended. See here
>>
>> http://dhis2.github.io/dhis2-docs/2.22/en/user/html/ch22s02.html
>>
>> 22.2.5. Data elements assigned to data sets with different period types
>>
>> Data elements should not be assigned to two separate data sets whose
>> period types differ. The recommended approach would be to create two
>> separate data elements (for instance a monthly and yearly data element) and
>> assign these to respective datasets.
>>
>>
>> I am sure Lars can provide the exact reason for this, but I am pretty
>> sure one should not have the same data element with two separate
>> frequencies. It would seem to be a good feature however, but I believe this
>> is a restriction imposed by analytics at the moment.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks JM, I forgot to mention that.
>>>
>>> Though you may still have to watch the totals if you combine months and
>>> years in the same Pivot Table.
>>>
>>> Knut
>>>
>>> On 14 Jul 2016 9:50 p.m., "Juan Manuel Alcantara Acosta" <
>>> jmalcantara1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Knut
>>> One way to avoid double counting is to make sure both data sets are
>>> never active in the same org units.
>>> JM
>>>
>>>
>>> El 14/07/2016, a las 2:10 p.m., Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> I think it will work quite well to just use the same data element in
>>> different datasets with different periodicity. The only thing to look out
>>> for is to avoid double counting, e.g. watch out for misleading Totals in
>>> Analytics.
>>>
>>> Knut
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:23 AM, David Hagan <david.hagan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good morning DHIS2 community,
>>>>
>>>> It's been a while ... changing mail clients meant that forum messages
>>>> skipped my in-box ... and what do they say ... 'out of sight - out of mind'.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I've rearranged settings and can see the email list is as busy
>>>> as ever!
>>>>
>>>> And onto my burning question:
>>>>
>>>> If we have a mix of organisational units (countries in our case,
>>>> collecting national data) that:
>>>>
>>>>    - some of which have historical monthly data, and some of which
>>>>    only have annual data; and
>>>>    - going forward, are transitioning to monthly data (but some will
>>>>    be slower and for the next couple of years will only have annual data)
>>>>
>>>> AND we want to bring this into a single DHIS2 instance, then
>>>>
>>>>    1. Is the best approach to create a set of duplicate data elements
>>>>    (in different datasets, one set for an annual collection period and one set
>>>>    for a monthly collection period)? or
>>>>    2. Is it possible to use a single data element in two different
>>>>    datasets with different periods set (one monthly and one annual)? ... (I
>>>>    don't see how this would work in practice, but maybe I'm just missing
>>>>    something - I know it is possible to put a DE in more than one dataset, but
>>>>    mixed collection periods for the same data element seems like it will mess
>>>>    up reporting and analytics)
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts or guidance or other options from the group appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> David Hagan
>>>>
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>>>
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>>
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