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Re: PDE<->ODE interface
> On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 09:58:46AM +0100, Johan Hoffman wrote:
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> ...
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>> I believe you Johan estimated the work for a matrix-free approach based
>> on
>> the action of f(u), to be favourable to forming the matrix A and using
>> matrix-vector multiplication Ax? In general?
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>> /Johan
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> Well, I speculated that it would be favorable :). I made a simple test
> with the form for linear elasticty once, and I ran it again now also
> with a mass form to compare. The mesh is a unit cube with 162k cells
> and I perform each operation (assemble or multiply) 10 times. "Matrix"
> is assembly of a matrix, "Action" is the assembly of the action vector
> and "Mult" is matrix-vector multiplication with the assembled
> matrix. Here are the results:
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> Elasticity:
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> Matrix: 31s
> Action: 10s
> Mult: 0.53s
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> Mass:
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> Matrix: 28s
> Action: 3.1s
> Mult: 0.53s
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>
> I'm not sure why the Matrix time only goes up 3 seconds while the
> Action time goes up 6 seconds between the mass and elasticity forms,
> that should be investigated. The extra work going from mass to
> elasticity should be the same for both cases. Perhaps there is room
> for optimization there.
>
> But we can clearly see that the sparse matrix overhead dominates the
> matrix assembly for these forms. But that overhead becomes less
> relevant for more complicated forms.
>
> If you need to re-assemble the matrix for every matrix-vector
> multiplication (i.e. every iteration of some algorithm), then it's
> clearly favorable to assemble the action instead. But if you are
> allowed to reuse the matrix for several iterations, then it seems to
> be faster to assemble the matrix and then do matrix-vector
> multiplication.
>
> But I think it's pretty interesting that assembling the action of the
> mass form is only a factor 6 slower than performing the matrix-vector
> multiplication (which assumes you already have the matrix). We could
> probably make the assembly even faster, but I doubt the matrix-vector
> multiplication time could be significantly reduced.
>
> Johan
>
Interesting. How come that assembling the matrix is 3-10 times as slow as
"assembling" the action? Is it only due to the overhead of managing the
sparse structure?
/Johan
Follow ups
References
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Re: PDE<->ODE interface
From: Johan Hoffman, 2005-11-02
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Re: PDE<->ODE interface
From: Anders Logg, 2005-11-03
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Re: PDE<->ODE interface
From: Johan Hoffman, 2005-11-04
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Re: PDE<->ODE interface
From: Anders Logg, 2005-11-04
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Re: PDE<->ODE interface
From: Johan Hoffman, 2005-11-04
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Re: PDE<->ODE interface
From: Anders Logg, 2005-11-04
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Re: PDE<->ODE interface
From: Johan Hoffman, 2005-11-04
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Re: PDE<->ODE interface
From: Anders Logg, 2005-11-04
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Re: PDE<->ODE interface
From: Johan Jansson, 2005-11-07
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Re: PDE<->ODE interface
From: Johan Hoffman, 2005-11-08
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Re: PDE<->ODE interface
From: Johan Jansson, 2005-11-09