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["Charl Wentzel" <charl.wentzel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Reenen

Thanks for the Wiki suggestion, I'll look into it.  We don't "lurkers", and
we do appreciate comments and suggestions as you've just done.    

Please do us one favour though: "spread the word"; tell your friends, post
messages, etc.  We need quite a lot of non-"lurkers" to make this work.

Regards
Charl

-----Original Message-----
From: dubuntu-team-bounces+charl.wentzel=vodamail.co.za@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:dubuntu-team-bounces+charl.wentzel=vodamail.co.za@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
t] On Behalf Of Reenen Laurie
Sent: 14 November 2008 10:24 AM
Cc: dubuntu-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Dubuntu-team] Kick off

Apologies, beforehand.

I am not at all a very serious developer, and I joined the project out
of interest... for now I am not at all going to be active, but if you
don't mind, I'll remain on the project as a "lurker".  :-)

My main agenda (if you could call that) is the inclusion of Lazarus
into the distro (which is not a "main-stream" development tool at the
moment).  Other than that, I have very little experience with ubuntu,
nevermind developing in python, C, C++, etc.

In terms of your name, I am very happy with Dubuntu, and Devbuntu is
harder to pronounce.

Btw. I believe you can do survey's on wikis, though they are really
surveys that are just embedded in the wiki.

In my experience Wiki's are by far the easiest web authoring tool, and
has amazing depth and flexibility.

Regards,
-Reenen

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Charl Wentzel
<charl.wentzel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
>
>
> This is the first mail on this mailing list!  Thank you for joining, we
> really appreciate the interest.  Unfortunately there is still only four of
> us, but that won't stop us.  So, let's get going.
>
>
>
> We have a few things we need to address before we can start working.  I'm
> made a list below.  Please feel free to:
>
> -          Add items to the list
>
> -          Comment/confirm/reject any items on the list (I don't mind
> criticism)
>
> -          Offer assistance on items
>
>
>
> Please note that we assume you have read the wiki
> (wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu-Developer) as this will be the basis from which we
> work.  (Note it was updated on Friday.)  Ok, without further delay, here's
a
> couple of things we need to address ASAP:
>
>
>
> 1.       We need to agree on the goal of the project and the means we
would
> like to achieve it by.  If you have any comments or additions, please let
us
> know.   We support the add-on installer concept as it is the fastest way
to
> get this project of the ground.
>
>
>
> If you think a bit futher, the installer concept will ultimately allow for
a
> number of new add-on distros based on the same principle.  It's not just
> applicable to development environments.  We may be developing a new tool
> that could create a storm in the Ubuntu community.  I have plenty more
> thoughts on this subject, but let's leave it for now.  Keep it in the back
> of your mind though.
>
>
>
> 2.       A proper identity for the project, i.e. logo and name.  Dubuntu
is
> the name Brad and I suggested and started with, but Damien also suggested
> Devbuntu.  Any comments, suggestions, artists, etc?
>
>
>
> 3.       Research on what we need to offer.  I'm thinking in the line of a
> anonymous on-line survey which would allow users to supply us with
> information on what to include.  The survey should be short (one page)
> asking just a few short questions (monkey puzzle) if possible.  E.g. What
> type of development do you do? (Gnome Gui, KDE gui, command line, kernel,
> Ubuntu project, etc) What programming language to you use? (C++, Python,
> etc) What IDE do you use? (KDevelop, Ajunta, etc).
>
>
>
> We need to decide on what these questions should be.
>
>
>
> 4.       A website.  Lauchpad and Wiki is great, but it has limitations,
we
> can't for example do the survey as mentioned above.  Any ideas?  Of course
a
> survey is not the only thing we'll do with the site, a CVS/Subversion/etc
> server would also be useful once we start coding.
>
>
>
> 5.       Create awareness!  How do we get more people involved.  Post
> invitations of forums?  Any ideas.  Four people is a drop in the ocean, we
> need plenty more.
>
>
>
> 6.       This is not critical yet, but we need to decide on the tools for
> this development.  I'm a Kdevelop and C++ guys, but Brad suggested Python
> with GTK+.  I rather like his suggestion.  I don't know Python but I heard
> great thing about it.  Since the default desktop for Ubuntu is Gnome, GTK+
> sounds like a good choice... we definitely want a nice GUI. I guest
> eliminates Tcl :-).  I thinks its fairly obvious that "apt" will be core
to
> this development as well.  I've also noticed a package with specific
support
> for apt in Pathon.
>
>
>
> So as its stand the current suggestion is:
>
> o   Python
>
> o   GTK+
>
> o   Apt
>
>
>
> Please comment/accept/reject.
>
>
>
> I think that's all for now.  Let's hear your views.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Charl
>
>
>
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