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about using xfce4-penel with pid does the panel start before the file is called that launches the sound indicator? or does the panel launch the sound indicator?
if the panel or the indicator applet is what calls sound indicator that would work fine

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Title:
  indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin

Status in Sound Menu:
  New
Status in “indicator-sound” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  downgrading to the previous version, indicator-
  sound_12.10.2daily13.04.12-0ubuntu1_amd64 from Raring allows the sound
  indicator to function in Saucy.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10
  Package: indicator-sound 12.10.2+13.10.20130731-0ubuntu1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.10.0-6.17-generic 3.10.3
  Uname: Linux 3.10.0-6-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.12-0ubuntu2
  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Sun Aug  4 12:20:02 2013
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-08-01 (367 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Xubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Alpha amd64 (20120801)
  MarkForUpload: True
  SourcePackage: indicator-sound
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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