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[Paddy Landau <974480@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Matthew, the last line reads, "… Java and Wine would be hard-coded as
the only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a
notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know that
Ubuntu even exists."

You do realise that there are other developers who "don't necessarily
know that Ubuntu even exists", don't you? If that is the rationale for
excluding Java and Wine, then why aren't you excluding all other
applications where this is the case?

This so-called bug-fix both contradicts itself and violates one of the
first rules of programming — no hard-coding of parameters.

As you can tell by the volume of complaints, new bugs and related
comments, this is not a bug-fix but rather a bug-creator. If Canonical
really has a good reason for this change (i.e. apart from digging in
your heels), it would be good to let us know.

Version 14.04 is nearly upon us, and there are still many applications,
some of them international de facto standards, that have not been
adapted and may not be in the reasonable future. It gives Ubuntu a bad
reputation amongst users both new and old: "Why doesn't this work in
Ubuntu? It works in Windows! (and OS X and Red Hat and previous Ubuntu
versions)" — "Because Ubuntu deliberately broke it! Don't ask me why;
they won't tell us!"

As a promoter of Ubuntu, this actually embarrasses me at times.

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Title:
  Notification area whitelist is obsolete

Status in Ayatana Design:
  Fix Released
Status in Unity:
  Fix Released
Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  Mark has asked us to consider retiring the notification area whitelist
  for 12.10. The application indicator system has been in place for two
  years now, which should be long enough for applications to adopt it.

  If the whitelist was retired, Java and Wine would be hard-coded as the
  only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a
  notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know
  that Ubuntu even exists.

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