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[Vanessa Lee <390508@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well let's approach this logically, scientifically, sensibly, and
reasonably.

We have an easy opportunity to add a "choice", to have the option or
not. But we are choosing not to have a choice.

The whole point of Ubuntu and free software is to be better than
commercial, to actually have the best and brightest minds contribute,
not highschool hackers who just want to make a buck and write buggy
code.

We should somehow at the very least, come half way and allow a choice
for to have the expire option or not.

Just because no one else does it does not mean we should not have that
option (note I am not saying that we absolutely must have it, but a
choice).

We can choose to use Linux, Windows, or Mac, or something else entirely,
we can and should have a choice to enable such a timeout/expire in our
OSD displays. Note that I said choice to enable or disable on the server
side, not explicitly accepting expire arguments on the client side.

With regards to the "silent majority", we don't know how many people
have come across this bug, we don't know how many people want it or do
not want it.

But we have many comments from people who have spent many hours trying
to figure out why the expire timeout was not being detected so I think
placing a warning about the expire timeout not being accepted is
reasonable.

Throughout history, having fewer choices has always, eventually, led to
monopolies, dictators, and single source dominations. I don't think we
are close to that with NotifyOSD, but we are going in that direction if
we explicitly deny such a choice.

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390508

Title:
  notifyOSD ignores the expire timeout parameter

Status in One Hundred Papercuts:
  Invalid
Status in Message Web:
  New
Status in “notify-osd” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  Binary package hint: libnotify-bin

  adyroman@panther:~/libnotify-0.4.5/tools$ lsb_release -rd
  Description:	Ubuntu 9.04
  Release:	9.04
  adyroman@panther:~/libnotify-0.4.5/tools$ 

  adyroman@panther:~/libnotify-0.4.5/tools$ apt-cache policy libnotify-bin
  libnotify-bin:
    Installed: 0.4.5-0ubuntu1
    Candidate: 0.4.5-0ubuntu1
    Version table:
   *** 0.4.5-0ubuntu1 0
          500 http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/universe Packages
          100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  adyroman@panther:~/libnotify-0.4.5/tools$ 

  adyroman@panther:~/libnotify-0.4.5/tools$ cat notify-send.c | grep expire_timeout
  	static glong expire_timeout = NOTIFY_EXPIRES_DEFAULT;
  		{ "expire-time", 't', 0,G_OPTION_ARG_INT, &expire_timeout,
  	notify_notification_set_timeout(notify, expire_timeout);
  adyroman@panther:~/libnotify-0.4.5/tools$

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