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[Oliver Grawert <ogra@xxxxxxxxxx>]

if you refer to indicator-sound with "volume UI" then yes ... note that
the apps i mentioned above only use the implementation from
https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/QtMultimedia.SoundEffect/
... the role changes from the default immediately when the play()
function is used, and stays changed for the duration of the sound.

it might be that either our interfacing of the toolkit with the back end
is broken here or the back end behaviour itself is wrong, but this kind
of supports  the fact that making a UI element pick the "current
default" without the ability to override is the wrong approach.

what if i want to write an app that explicitly allows modification of
different volumes for different roles, i would have no way to use your
slider item at all but would have to completely create custom sliders,
since all of yours would forcefully just point to the default output.
whatever we have in the toolkit should offer to define the role it
controls (with a sane default when undefined).

all i'm asking for is a way to override the default behaviour in the
toolkit element, or if needed there could be a "default volume slider"
and a "customizable volume slider" if you prefer to not have it in the
same element.

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1389761

Title:
  Don't show the volume overlay when changing the volume with the slider

Status in indicator-sound package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged
Status in ubuntu-system-settings package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in ubuntu-ui-toolkit package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  The overlay and the slider are redundant when the user changes the
  volume with the slider and the overlay shouldn't be displayed.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu RTM 14.09
  Package: indicator-sound 12.10.2+14.10.20141021~rtm-0ubuntu1
  Uname: Linux 3.4.67 armv7l
  ActionStates: ({'mediaplayer-app.desktop.greeter': (true, signature '', [<{'running': <false>, 'state': <'Paused'>}>]), 'mute': (true, '', [<false>]), 'phone-settings': (true, '', []), 'mic-volume': (true, '', [<1.0>]), 'scroll': (true, 'i', []), 'high-volume': (true, '', [<false>]), 'play-playlist.mediaplayer-app.desktop': (true, 's', []), 'desktop-settings': (true, '', []), 'mediaplayer-app.desktop': (true, '', [<{'running': <false>, 'state': <'Paused'>}>]), 'play.mediaplayer-app.desktop': (true, '', [<'Paused'>]), 'volume': (true, 'i', [<1.0>]), 'next.mediaplayer-app.desktop': (true, '', []), 'root': (true, '', [<{'title': <'Son'>, 'accessible-desc': <'Volume (100%)'>, 'icon': <('themed', <['audio-volume-high-panel', 'audio-volume-high', 'audio-volume', 'audio']>)>, 'visible': <true>}>]), 'previous.mediaplayer-app.desktop': (true, '', []), 'silent-mode': (true, '', [<false>])},)
  ApportVersion: 2.14.7-0ubuntu8
  Architecture: armhf
  Date: Wed Nov  5 16:58:35 2014
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2014-11-05 (0 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu Utopic Unicorn (development branch) - armhf (20141105-120036)
  SourcePackage: indicator-sound
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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