elementary-dev-community team mailing list archive

[ttosttos Sa <ttosttos@xxxxxxxxx>]

Blurring the lines between minimize and close is a good vision that I'd
expect it to face challenges in real life for Luna. While the user
experience with elementary apps should be great, the reality is that the
Luna experience may not be that smooth for many users that depend on more
than just elementary apps. Take for example, a browser with a large number
of tabs, a virtual machine window, even shotwell.  I'd expect those to be
common use cases with significant differences in user experience between
close and minimize.  I agree that Luna messaging needs to be pretty good in
explaining why there's no minimize button, plus there should be a backdoor
to enable it for those too annoyed.  I understand the backdoor kind of
exists, but the window decoration is missing in the theme.

--ttosttos

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Keith Adair <kjzz12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Sergey: +1
>
> I think it's currently a bit confusing that
>
> A. There is no minimize button
>
> B. Clicking on the app in Plank minimizes
>
> C. There is no indication that the app is running but minimized
>
> So I think there should be no one-click way to minimize for the user. If a
> user is desperately missing that function, there should be an toggle in
> Dconf. But I don't think that minimize fits into the elementary operational
> mindset. If an app like a music app wants to minimize, that's fine.
>
> On a related point, I think that a few different points about Luna are
> going to be seen as something totally new for some users, and might need
> some hand-holding and direction for the new user.
>
> A. No minimize
>
> B. No difference between running and non-running apps
>
> C. Fairly heavy use of multiple desktops, etc.
>
> Maybe a slideshow during install?
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff <
> sergey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> 2012/9/20 Nishant Agrwal <nishantagrwal12993@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> What do you guys think of this:
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/gala/+spec/option-to-disable-minimize
>>
>
> I can't see the point of that personally. Could you provide an example use
> case in which disabling minimize on the WM side is better than leaving
> things as they are?
>
> In my vision minimize is still there but not exposed to the user; e.g.
> music player should minimize instead of closing if its window is closed
> while it's playing music.
>
> --
> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
>
>
>
> --
> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community
> Post to     : elementary-dev-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community
> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>
>