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[Daniel Foré <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Just my two cents:

It'd be really easy to just call it "Music" and not worry about it any
longer haha.

I don't think we should translate the name unless we're going with "Music".
Translating a "branded" name would kind of defeat the purpose, IMO and (as
previously pointed out) could lead to some not-so-nice translations.

I didn't really intend Noise to be a serious name, but I don't have any
massive problems with it either. I do agree with Victor that if we're going
to do a name change it needs to happen as soon as humanly possible.


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Jose Luis Navarro
<jlnavarro111@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> @Victor +1
> El 19/11/2012 19:42, "xapantu" <xapantu@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:
>
>  Le 19/11/2012 17:43, Benjamin VanMeggelen a écrit :
>>
>> I understand the issue with the translation. >From what I understand (as
>> french being my second language) the translation from Noise to french is
>> Bruit. I'm not sure if the application titles have been (or will be)
>> translated, but if so "Bruit" gives the same proper description of what
>> Noise is in english.
>>
>> I hope it doesn't, IIRC "bruit" is much more negative than noise. "bruit"
>> is just something you don't want to hear, when you say music is "bruit", it
>> means that the music is very, very bad. And no, the names aren't (or
>> shouldn't?) be translated ;)
>> (But as Corentin said, "noise" is not much better than "bruit" is french
>> anyway.)
>>
>> Lucas
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 19 Nov, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Corentin Noël <tintou@xxxxxxxxxx><tintou@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>> Okay, I disagree with you all then because in my language (french) there
>> is two way to pronounce that :
>> In french, and that word exists and means "problems"
>> In english, and that is really hard because there is an double voyel
>> (no-ise) so it's not that good for us.
>> I let the democracy choose, but here are my two cents.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Corentin Noël (tintou)
>>
>> Benjamin VanMeggelen ** a écrit :
>>
>> >I also agree that Noise is an appropriate name for the player. I feel
>> that this naming scheme is most relevant to the player, as opposed to Tempo
>> or some of the others that have been mentioned. Noise seems more generic
>> and straight-forward as to what the app is meant to do.
>> >
>> >On Mon, 19 Nov, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Felix Akkermans ** wrote:
>> >I also agree with Jaap. Both names are equal to me in communicational
>> value, so definitely not worth the effort and hassle.
>> >
>> >On 11/19/2012 03:46 PM, Chris Triantafillis wrote:
>> >I agree with Jaap and i'm against rename it...
>> >Also i don't like Tempo, Noise is much better...
>> >
>> >
>> >2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen **
>> >Don't we already present Noise in the OS as a music player? Doesn't the
>> icon have the purpose of showing the user what the app probably does?
>> >
>> >IMO "Noise" relates more to music than "Tempo" does. Also, if we are
>> going this way with Noise because the name should directly show people what
>> the app does, we should probably rename Geary and Midori too. And the
>> makers of Empathy, Skype, Spotify, Steam, Firefox, Opera, Launchpad, Google
>> Plus, Banshee, Clementine should probably have to start to think about a
>> new name too.
>> >
>> >When we moved from Beatbox to our own fork the choice was made to name
>> it "Noise". That already resulted in some confusion among the users.
>> Renaming it again will only yet again result in more confusion.
>> >
>> >There will always be people who say a certain name is not good for the
>> app, or that it is weird. The same will happen when you rename it to
>> "Tempo", or any other name for that matter.
>> >
>> >IMO Noise should only be renamed if there is a really, really good
>> reason to, and some users complaining it may sound negative is a good
>> reason, i think. Also when you choose to rename it, the new name should be
>> significantly better than the old name, if you want to show the confused
>> users that it was really necessary and useful to make the change.
>> >
>> >Just my two cents,
>> >Jaap
>> >
>> >Op ma, nov 19, 2012 at 3:14 ,David Gomes ** schreef:
>> >
>> >It's trivial to you because you know what Noise is. It's a media player,
>> you know it.
>> >
>> >For people who don't, it's better if that name it is installed under in
>> the computer is "Music Player" or something like that. It's easier for most
>> people.
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Jaap Broekhuizen | Mobiel ** wrote:
>> >What is "many"? Seems like a trivial thing to me...
>> >
>> >--
>> >Jaap
>> >
>> >"Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" **schreef:
>> >
>> >>2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen **:
>> >>> Is there an actual logical reason to rename Noise?
>> >>
>> >>"Noise" is perceived as something negative by many (the kind of people
>> >>who are not crazy about metal or industrial), that's it AFAIK.
>> >>
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