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Re: (the indicators situation) XFCE next release approaching, they hope to port to gtk3 afterwards


The big problem is that GTK.Popover cannot be a top level window and granite popover is intended to be deprecated. Cheers,

Daniel Foré

On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Sergio Costas <rastersoft@xxxxxxxxx>

> Hi:
> I've been thinking about this, and want to propose an idea. But before 
> writing code, I prefer to comment it first, just in case someone finds 
> something that could prevent it from being useful.
> At first I considered the idea of using libpeas to add the indicators 
> directly as part of the bar, but then I realized that it's not a good 
> idea because a bug in any indicator (which are always pieces of software 
> delivered by third parties and without the same quality control) would 
> crash the entire bar, which is not desirable.
> The idea of exporting the indicator using DBus is good, but has the 
> problem that it needs a lot of work in order to embed any widget and 
> send them through the bus (like the famous libido). But then I realized 
> that the only API needed over DBus is the one to put an icon in the bar, 
> and also a DBus callback to inform the indicator that the user clicked 
> on it. The popup itself can be painted directly by the indicator app, 
> because it is a new window, and inside it can be painted any standard 
> widget. This way, wingpanel (or whatever indicator bar used by the user) 
> only needs to offer an API to add an icon inside, and a DBus signal to 
> inform the indicator app that it must show/hide its popup (and also 
> other to enable/disable an icon, and so on, but the API would be very 
> small).
> The advantages are several:
> * Developing the library would be extremely easy, and also its 
> maintenance, because it is extremely lightweight.
> * It won't use XEmbedd or other X-specific mechanisms, which means that 
> it would be fully compatible with Wayland without changing a line.
> * By copying the client API from libappindicator, it is possible to have 
> binary compatibility with libappindicator applications: the client code 
> would send over DBus the petition to put the icon in the bar, and will 
> wait for click events. When they arrive, it would create a popup with 
> the menu created by the appindicator application.
> Critics? Change proponsals? Am I completely off-topic?
> El 28/07/14 a las #4, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff escribió:
>> Thanks for the info!
>> I wonder if indicators themselves were ported to GTK3 though.
>> Another suggestion I've heard recently is looking into MATE 
>> indicators. But this is all Freya+1 stuff so I'll investigate it only 
>> after Freya is released.
>> If anyone's interested in the situation with indicators, I've detailed 
>> it here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1439765#p1439765
>> -- 
>> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
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